OR/4x4 modification gurus lend me your ears

[Pumpy]

I think it unlikely the one I was looking at was ringed, it had just had a new MOT, it would be easy to check the MOT was genuine, I am presuming the MOT would spot a ringer though, whilst not spotting the "tax exempt" rule bending regarding rebuilds.

 

To be on the safe side on these projects, it may be worth asking the seller for a SVA/ESVA certificate, and if they're not prepared to have it tested, walk away.

 

Pumpy.

[Hedge hunter]

I think it unlikely the one I was looking at was ringed, it had just had a new MOT, it would be easy to check the MOT was genuine, I am presuming the MOT would spot a ringer though, whilst not spotting the "tax exempt" rule bending regarding rebuilds.

 

To be on the safe side on these projects, it may be worth asking the seller for a SVA/ESVA certificate, and if they're not prepared to have it tested, walk away.

 

Pumpy.

 

not the M.O.T testers responsibility to report a ringer and they dont in my experiance..

[Pumpy]

not the M.O.T testers responsibility to report a ringer and they dont in my experiance..

Good to know thanks, in this case the engine and gearbox had been professionally fitted by a 4x4 specialist, I can't see ringers going that far.

[Hedge hunter]

Good to know thanks, in this case the engine and gearbox had been professionally fitted by a 4x4 specialist, I can't see ringers going that far.

i fittede a new gearbox on the drive in a few hours.....

 

ringers are only spotted by real geeks these days as they are just nuts and bolts.You have to be anal about part shapes to spot the differences.

 

engine and drivetrain are very easy to swop so dont be fooled by "pro" conversions.

[Pumpy]

Blimey, looking at these things seems a bloody minefield! Cheers HH.

 

I'll be asking for a ESVA test cert before parting with any cash!

[Hedge hunter]

Blimey, looking at these things seems a bloody minefield! Cheers HH.

 

I'll be asking for a ESVA test cert before parting with any cash!

yes,ive been on landrovers for 30yrs or more and it took me 8months to find the current 1 i have...

 

go steady or get burned.if you need advise do send me pics of wagons and ill i.d. them for you.

 

i have freinds in landy world so if you need a wagon i can ask whats about on the private club sales as these are ushall maintained to a cost no isssue standard.

[Chris Sheppard]

 

engine and drivetrain are very easy to swop so dont be fooled by "pro" conversions.

 

Aint that the truth - most of the "specialists" are special to say the least

 

Blimey, looking at these things seems a bloody minefield! Cheers HH.

 

I'll be asking for a ESVA test cert before parting with any cash!

 

Looks like you'll be hanging on to your cash a while then - the reason most won't have IVA/SVA etc is that they'd never get it in the first place.

 

If you want a good starting point at the lower end of the rice bracket, have a look at ex utility. They've usually been worked hard but in my experience have usually been fixed as needed using half decent parts (though that's not to say they all have).

[Pumpy]

Cheers guys

 

I've had 110s before, got burnt on the first one courtesy of the military tender outfit on honeypot lane, second one was a 1989, had two yrs of expensive maintenance before plumping for a 3.0v6 shogun, loved it until all the warning lights took on a mind of their own, then got a low millage 06 shogun warrior, which is too nice to use for chucking crap in the back, so I end up pulling a trailer just to keep the car tidy plus the running costs/depreciation are stupid for the 2k miles a yr I use it, just had it MOT'd cost £600 in brake bits, I know the guy who MOT'd it, he told me to get it waxoyled before winter if I was going to keep it or it'd be a pile of rust in no time, so I'm not sure I want to keep it

 

How do the classic range rover "rebuilds" stack up as far as the VOSA rules go? Here's one on ebay for example

 

I guess I'm after something solid, tax exempt I can run on classic ins, with decent engine and running gear, serious off road prepping type fancy bits (winch/lifted/roll bars etc.) are not essential but would be a bonus if I can do a bit of off roading fun, but also something that's not a VOSA liability, for about £5k or under, and I'm not sure one exists yet

 

I presume a pre 98 rebuilt something would be easiest to avoid possible VOSA shenanigans, assuming you could prove it was a pre 98 rebuild from the V5 or other paperwork, with the correct chassis & engine numbers on the V5 also.

 

I'm in no rush, I'll put my shogun on the market first which will stop any "impulse" purchases Yeah if you see something on the club circuit might fit the bill shoot me a PM

[Hedge hunter]

if its a cut down range rover chassis it should be on the range rover number plate or its wrong.....

 

wouldnt touch that with a barge ploe on acid...

[Pumpy]

I presume it is on the range rover number plate, LR started building them in 1970, so anything pre 1973 (or 1974 from April next yr) would be tax exempt.

 

The cut down RR classic one in the link seems odd because it looks like it's got a 1972 series tub, presumably a series bulkhead (split screen) canvas roof, but defender wings/grill/bonnet, even if it uses the RR number I think it bends the rules as a cut down chassis is non original in the points system, but may qualify if it was converted pre 1998 legislation, weather it used the series number or the RR.

 

this one looks well dodgy, a tax exempt "Defender V8" looking remarkably similar to a 90, but a lack of details on the "rebuild" makes it look even more dodgy