Poplar problem

[brazenberg]

Hi guys, I need some advice on some poplar trees. I have 20-30 80ft tall poplar trees on my boundary, the other day my neighbor came round and said a branch had fallen off and was worried that the trees weren't safe(the branch was 4 inch in diameter) he suggested that I cut them all down to ground level. i'm going to get a tree surgeon to tidy up where the branch snapped, remove any dead/diseased/hung up branches and to give the tree's a good checking over, however I don't think the neighbor will be happy with this and he's suggested he'll get the local council involved. What are the legality's with tree's on boundary lines? and do you think i'm doing everything i should be doing?

 

There are two tree's that are causing damage the the neighbors drive so I'm taking those ones out as well as two either side of them, I'm taking them down to the ground and poisoning them.

 

Any help/advice would be much appreciated

[Tony.Price]

A consultant is expected to give impartial advice which is easier for them to do being more independent. They are also specialists in their field.

 

A tree surgeon would normally, BUT BY NO MEANS ALWAYS, be recommending work that they wish (at some point) to undertake. This, therefore, can be seen as looking to line their own pockets. Specialism is the organisation and undertaking of the work by definition.

 

A can of worms, probably but my opinion. At some point, a line must be drawn. Otherwise we may become a jack of all trades and master of none!

[rupert w]

A consultant is expected to give impartial advice which is easier for them to do being more independent. They are also specialists in their field.

 

A tree surgeon would normally, BUT BY NO MEANS ALWAYS, be recommending work that they wish (at some point) to undertake. This, therefore, can be seen as looking to line their own pockets. Specialism is the organisation and undertaking of the work by definition.

 

A can of worms, probably but my opinion. At some point, a line must be drawn. Otherwise we may become a jack of all trades and master of none!

sorry,that was a loaded question,I know that but sometimes it is not about work but good advice rergardless of work.What makes someone a consultant?other than the obvious quals.What is the step over point?

[Graham Brook]

Standard practice would be firstly to employ a consultant who would inspect the trees as a group and write a report, his report would contain recommendations for any remedial work.

 

The "tree surgeon" would then be employed to carry out the work to the consultants recommendation.

 

Following this procedure will ensure you have acted as a "reasonable and prudent landowner" which you are required by UK law.

 

Graham

[ballibeg]

Standard practice would be firstly to employ a consultant who would inspect the trees as a group and write a report, his report would contain recommendations for any remedial work.

 

The "tree surgeon" would then be employed to carry out the work to the consultants recommendation.

 

Following this procedure will ensure you have acted as a "reasonable and prudent landowner" which you are required by UK law.

 

Graham

 

And there in a nutshell is why more and more people want trees gone from their gardens.

 

Dave

[Andy Clark]

A comprehensive reply Andy but a bit bold for me; not having all the evidence!

 

"Lastly, under NO circumstances just get the felling work done without at least getting some reduction or thinning works done on the remainder".

 

It is best to recommend a holistic approach to a group of trees. However, I feel it would be best to assess this situation 'on site' to determine an action plan before recommending expensive, and probably 'cyclic' management needs to a group of over 20 trees.

 

A consultants advise is 'in my opinion' money well spent.

 

 

What more evidence does one need Tony?

 

The original post was clear, in the respect that we're talking about a group of 20-30 80ft tall Lombardys located on the property boundary, and that there are liability issues by way of the concerns of the neighbour over falling branches.

 

The original post also indicates that there is already an intention to fell 4 of the trees - 2 of which to abate damage.

 

On this basis alone, if you actually quote me in context of the accompanying explanation that followed, you'll see that I conclude by stating that the point is to treat the works as one project - ie, don't get the felling works done, and then start looking at other works as a separate issue.

 

Treating it as one project, would of course allow the party conducting the report to make a full and factual assessment based on ALL required works, as opposed to turning up on site after part of the works (the felling) have been conducted - and thus having to play guess works as to the sites original condition.

 

 

Bold? Not really. Just better read in context.

 

 

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[Andy Clark]

Good comments,but surely some of us are qualified,even if we are just tree surgeons,Arborists with quals. where is the line?

 

 

Don't get me wrong Rupert, I'm not implying that Climbers etc can't make good recommendations.

 

The matter here is that the neighbour is pushing the liability button. Hence the only way to safeguard against that liability in a defensible way - ie, a way that will stand up in court, is to get a consultant to carry out the report.

 

Recommendations from someone other than a consultant may be equally as effective, but if it ever went to court a decent barrister could rip it to pieces, purely on the fact of the previous precedence of the relevant level of qualifications.

It's just a question of box ticking, that's all.

 

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