Value of standing timber (HND project)

[onetruth]

Hello all,

 

As part of my HND research project I need to get an idea of the value of the timber in a small woodland near Hexham, Northumberland.

 

There are 200 larch (european I think), very clean and straight, 50 years old, 30m high, DBH 40-50cm. The site is undulating and steeply sloping (30%) down away from the nearest vehicle access point - lorries would be able to park some 100m away.

 

My questions are:

1) What could I expect to receive if I sold the timber in situ (ie. the buyer fells and extracts)?

2) What would be the smallest quantity of trees a buyer might be willing to take this way?

 

Measurement are approximate at the moment.

 

I'm not looking for accurate quotes, just reasonable suggestions from people more knowledgable than me so that I can make an educated guess at a figure as part of my assignment.

 

Thanks, all!

[Lyncombe-climber]

No point getting a harvester in so would all be hand cut. Steep slopes make it time consuming. Then would all have to winched into a place suitable for a forwarder to the stacking area. I'd want nothing short of all of it. So personally I'd offer £5 pc standing.

[Chris Sheppard]

Hello all,

 

As part of my HND research project I need to get an idea of the value of the timber in a small woodland near Hexham, Northumberland.

 

There are 200 larch (european I think), very clean and straight, 50 years old, 30m high, DBH 40-50cm. The site is undulating and steeply sloping (30%) down away from the nearest vehicle access point - lorries would be able to park some 100m away.

 

My questions are:

1) What could I expect to receive if I sold the timber in situ (ie. the buyer fells and extracts)?

2) What would be the smallest quantity of trees a buyer might be willing to take this way?

 

Measurement are approximate at the moment.

 

I'm not looking for accurate quotes, just reasonable suggestions from people more knowledgable than me so that I can make an educated guess at a figure as part of my assignment.

 

Thanks, all!

 

There's loads of things to take into account but one of the biggest things in your favour is going be location - most of the millable softwood from round us head up to the North East anyway.

 

Size wise, you might be lucky enough to sneak all the sawlogs in at the top grade (i.e not over 40cm TD) which would add a little more value to it.

 

More important things to look at are whether ti's to clearfell or just to thin, and how far down the slope they'd need to come. Also, how much tidying would you be expecting the contractor to do afterwards.

 

If they are as straight and clean and fairly knot free as they sound, then there should be some reasonable grade material come out with minimal chip grade stuff, though even that is worth a reasonable amount now too.

 

Without seeing the site, I'd purely be speculating, but I'd say L.C is a bit on the low side, though I'd agree that if anyone was going to do it, they'd more than likely want to do it all or not at all as it's only a few days felling from the sound of it.

[TimberCutterDartmoor]

Without seeing the site, I'd purely be speculating, but I'd say L.C is a bit on the low side, though I'd agree that if anyone was going to do it, they'd more than likely want to do it all or not at all as it's only a few days felling from the sound of it.

 

+1. I take it it's not infected?

[Joe Pub1ic]

Hi Chris

 

Could you explain why over 40cm TD is not top grade. Is TD the same as 40cm DBH? If not what is TD ?

What is the range in cm for top grade larch

 

Cheers

 

 

 

Size wise, you might be lucky enough to sneak all the sawlogs in at the top grade (i.e not over 40cm TD) which would add a little more value to it.

 

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[AlexB]

DBH= diameter at breast height. TD = top diameter either of the product or the tree.

 

You'll get an idea for a roadside price from the FC's standing sales archive. You really need to see the site. 200 trees is nothing really. The most profitable option with a quick think would be to sell standing and ask a standing price of about 10-20% of the roadside price of each product. Andrew Lesley (if my guess is correct) will have given you the info to work out an estimate of what percentage of each product you'll get out of the stand.

 

Good luck!

[Lyncombe-climber]

I have the FC graphs if you want them.

[Chris Sheppard]

Hi Chris

 

Could you explain why over 40cm TD is not top grade. Is TD the same as 40cm DBH? If not what is TD ?

What is the range in cm for top grade larch

 

Cheers

 

TD = Top diameter (so the diameter of the thin end of a sawn length).

 

I probably worded it a bit badly - I should have said highest price band rather than top grade as that was maybe a bit confusing.

 

Sawlogs into Taylormade are/were 150mm min TD up to 400mm (could be 450 but we've not sent any since last year) over that they become oversize and the price dropped by £4/T from memory.

Edited June 19, 2013 by Chris Sheppard

[Joe Pub1ic]

thanks for the explanation

 

Cheers

Mick

 

TD = Top diameter (so the diameter of the thin end of a sawn length).

 

I probably worded it a bit badly - I should have said highest price band rather than top grade as that was maybe a bit confusing.

 

Sawlogs into Taylormade are/were 150mm min TD up to 400mm (could be 450 but we've not sent any since last year) over that they become oversize and the price dropped by £4/T from memory.