Am getting there............

[difflock]

The luxury of 2 PTO's to drive my splitter and saw side by side.

see att.

My next "project" is to mount both items side by side on a frame, driven off one centrally mounted PTO stub with suitable pully sizes so as to allow the Fiat to power both at about 1000 engine rpm on the 540 shaft.

The old DB has the benefit of a 1000 PTO setting, but I need her for off road forklift duties.

With perhaps a home made "bundler" on the back for my 1.0m3 round bundles of 1.0m long billets.

Hydraulically clamped and tied with 6mm blue rope.

[rowan lee]

Nice idea, like the sound of that Difflock. So split, saw, stack for your own supply

and

sell cubic meter bales to punters.

 

I could do with a second tractor myself, as I'm constantly swopping kit around in a single day. My splitter usually sits in the one place and I was thinking of jacking up an old berlingo van my dad has abandoned , removing the front tyre and welding a pto spline onto the drive hub for power. Would save me buying another 35 or similar.

[difflock]

Funny enough............................

I have kept the 1.9TDI Galaxy parked up for that very reason.

One really needs to drop both driven wheels into "rollers" so as to avoid overworking the differential.(if only using one wheel)

Slipper bearing and steel shaft with wider rims welded on for rollers, cumbersome though.

I did some sums in my head in bed one night and decided that the speed of rotation of the tyre was about right to give 540rpm, especially with a whole gearbox to play with.

Or I could cobble the whole shebang together into a trailer unit, cos I got an axle squirrled away as well.

but again "top" gear best as it is "straight" through.

Gibber,

mutter

and

twitch.

Edited May 1, 2013 by difflock

[difflock]

Right ho

Simple sums

assume 60 km/hr (just over 35mph or thereabouts)

60km =60,000m/60 = 1000m/min

assume wheel about 1 foot or 300mm radius

so circ = pie*D

circ = 3.143*0.6m

say 1.8m

1000/1.8 = 555.555 (Ok I used a calc for that)

but near enough 540 rpm (especially since pie*D more than 1.8m)

Actually 1.885 (calc again)

and then

1000/1.885 = 530rpm = Bingo!

[codlasher]

Like!

A friend has his old Nissan Terrano doing similar. He chopped it in half, behind the drivers & passenger seats and bolted the remainder to a concrete block wall . The rear drive shaft continues through the wall and drives a 90 degree gearbox (off an old topper) which in turn drives two other machines. This saves using a tractor at all and uses a good Jap engine from a rubbish rusty old body.

codlasher

[rowan lee]

Cod that friend of yours setup sounds amazing. Could only sit back in awe and watch that creation.

 

:thumbup:Holy smokes Difflock, you have given this some thought. Never looked into that to much, (perhaps the little 35's engine at tick over for the pto pump is under a little more strain then I give her credit for)

Good tip on the use of rollers for under the two front wheels, probably would screw itself off under the constant torque. Like the topper gearbox idea mentioned in Codlashers post, I'm sure that could be easily 'bogded' together off the front of the berlingo.

 

As they'd say up your way Diff, 'keep 'er lit bouy'

[difflock]

Yep, any rear wheel drive vehicle is simpler since one has got the steel shaft prop to use.

before the diff.

Dad done the same with a Gardiner engined lorry some 45 years ago, to drive the big fan on the grain dryer.

The cab (wooden framed fiberglass) has now completely disintegrated.

PS

Tee hee!

Wanna see the photo of the shaft drive topper I bought at auction, for such an eventuallity.

Identical to my already owned one, so spares commonality forby.

It got a splitter "T" gear box plus 2 right angle/bevel gearboxs.

Each gearbox is good for 80 plus HP.

I understand the hydraulic pump on the splitter can be driven in either direction, by merely swopping the pipes, so the contra-rotating shafts do not pose a problem. (topper blades turn inwards towards each other).

PPS

If I spent as much time gainfully working as "Heath Robinson" planning I would get more done.

cheers

marcus

Edited May 2, 2013 by difflock

[rowan lee]

Yeah show us the topper pic difflock. You can't beat a bit of ingenuity, re: the old Gardiner fan generator. Its just to easy to go out and buy that purpose built bit of kit for the job, but where's the fun in that.

 

Btw is the crane trailer in your profile picture a diy job?