Margaret Thatcher RIP

[Le Sanglier]

Only if it takes votes away from ALL parties, which I don't feel it will. Only conservative based parties will be interested in the ukip vote I reckon, the core left / socialist vote & parties are well out of this Europe debate. If the euro-sceptic conservative parties start bickering amongst themselves the door is open for the Labour Party to sweep back in. Europe is a federal socialist utopia, the Labour Party will NEVER turn it's back on that...

 

 

 

True, it's the voters which differ, not the politicians. Although the politicians are virtually all identikit, a heavily lobbied labour mp will take a different path to a heavily lobbied Tory.

Take the hunting ban, prime example. Would never have happened under the Tories. But of course so long as they're tied to the liberals, there's nothing they can do about it.

 

My personal opinion is that for the greater good we need a government which is capitalist, centre right, euro-sceptic. Liberalism would be bad because we would be taken advantage of by other nations, socialism would be bad because we get taken advantage of from within.

So that leaves us with the Tories who, for all their innumerable faults, do come down on the side of only getting what you earn but anyone can have a crack at earning. I couldn't really given a hoot what they get up to in their personal lives so long as I can make decent honest living with minimal interference.

 

Quick point here, the UKIP support largely comes from the "working class"

For it is they who probably are affected most by UKIP's main hobby horse, immigration.

[WorcsWuss]

Quick point here, the UKIP support largely comes from the "working class"

For it is they who probably are affected most by UKIP's main hobby horse, immigration.

 

I never had Nigel Farage down as a working class hero....

And let's not forget that the working class is now a far smaller group that it was according to the BBC class survey.....

[Le Sanglier]

:001_smile:Well maybe I should have said poor people.

[WorcsWuss]

:001_smile:Well maybe I should have said poor people.

 

:lol: in that case there's hope for toffs everywhere!