Cpr

[Guest]

Vinnie Jones's ad show not to give the emergency breath's in hope to just get more people to do it as the idea of putting your lips on to someone else apparently puts people off. Fine if the Emergency services are there very fast but if there is any kinda delay, getting your lips wet could mean life or death for the unfortunate individual!

 

30 Chest compression's "on the soverign" - 2 emergency breaths - repeat

This is what i was tought when I was a volunteer for st. John Ambulance any way about 4 years ago could be out of date now I suppose?

I have never been in the unpleasant situation where I have had to carry out the technique though.

[alex_m]

If you are put off by touching their lips you can always use a plastic bag with a hole in (something that's in alot of first aid kits)

 

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[Able Fella]

I did trauma training about 5 years ago, our tutor was a retired surgeon for the Army, he told us not to mouth to mouth even then, he said this was due to the difficulty in getting a good technique and actually getting any oxygen in at all, he said that good compressions should draw in enough oxygen to do the job until the professionals arrive.

[Minotaur]

I am a qualified HSE First Aid Instructor, Expedition Medic and Community First Responder, so have a pretty good understanding of the pro's and con's of Compression only CPR.

As Vermeer said, the reason for the compression only CPR is to encourage more people to step forward and have a go! Many people stand and stare because they are frightened, don't know what to do, etc. However, by encouraging the general public to have a go at compression only CPR, and with VJ as the personality, they are hoping more people will have a better chance of survival.

Compression CPR is better than no CPR, however, CPR done at the industry standard:

 

30 compressions, followed by 2 rescue breaths (good seal around the mouth) watching the chest rise as you do it, 30 compressions, 2 rescue breaths, etc, etc. Is a whole lot better.

 

I have been in the postion of having administered CPR on a number of ocassions and the first time in particular it is very daunting, even when you have had lots of training!

There is often, bile, puke, phlegm, spit, blood, etc in or around the mouth, so a face mask of some kind is essential if you are going to give it a go! But, a paper bag or similar with a hole placed over the face will surfice, avoid contact with the eye area if at all possible, but most important are COMPRESSIONS.

[Andy Collins]

My refresher at the end of last year taught no breaths, just compressions. Seems to depend on who takes the course as to their way of thinking. Either way, the aim is to keep the patient alive until the ambulance arrives. Whatever works is good enough.

[Reddog]

Does the UK have DNR's (Do Not Resuscitate orders)?

 

If yes how are you trained to handle them on an unknown person?

[Guest]

Are they not only applicable in a hospital/ home environment if its just out and about on the street then I would see it as unexpected? People have tried to sue others for conducting first aid but unless you were trying open up some ones air way with your Swiss Army knife and you were untrained to do so, a court would usually side with the first aider.

 

Please note I do not take any responsibility for any person conducting any first aid methods be it with a Swiss Army knife or not! Haha

[woodyguy]

So that's 30 compressions, then how many with the Swiss army knife?