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"I'd suggest that before an arb can 'look for ways to mitigate/lessen that risk to a tolerable level' they need to first know both what the level of risk is"

 

yes and this includes both the risk of failure, and the risk of damage due to failure.

 

"...obvious defects? Well, I guess what I meant was arboricultural features which would be recognised by many arbs as being a potential indicator that the tree/s in question may have an elevated level of risk of failure... or something along those lines :)"

 

well there in that one sentence you have 3 qualifiers, so your meaning is now even less clear, from here. since tony is enjoying a fag (very different meaning in the US:001_tt2:) i'll suggest that it is this very type of ambiguity that leads to quick and erroneous condemnations, and that was the prompt for this thread.

 

or maybe i too need to lay down in a dark room...no fags thanks :thumbdown:

 

Wow, I'm not entirely sure, but I think I've just been accused of making quick and erroneous 'condemnations' of trees. :confused1:

 

The definition I gave for an 'obvious defect' was just off the top of my head, but it'll do for now. I suspect that most people would know what I'm getting at. But if you do want a more detailed definition try this document:

 

http://www.forestry.gov.uk/PDF/FCMS024.pdf/$FILE/FCMS024.pdf

 

I also suspect that most people would recognise that an obvious defect does not necessarily mean that a tree has to be 'condemned' (not that I'm entirely sure what you mean by that word). Again, this is old ground, covered in the above document.

 

I still don't know what Tony is getting at though...

 

Please Tony (aka Hama), you started this thread, and although there's several people who appear to understand what you're getting at, I'm afraid I don't. I know from past discussions with you that you are incredibly passionate about trees, but I just don't know what you are getting at here. Give us a shove in the right direction please :001_smile:

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Wow, I'm not entirely sure, but I think I've just been accused of making quick and erroneous 'condemnations' of trees. :confused1:

 

The definition I gave for an 'obvious defect' was just off the top of my head, but it'll do for now. I suspect that most people would know what I'm getting at. But if you do want a more detailed definition try this document:

 

http://www.forestry.gov.uk/PDF/FCMS024.pdf//FCMS024.pdf

 

I also suspect that most people would recognise that an obvious defect does not necessarily mean that a tree has to be 'condemned' (not that I'm entirely sure what you mean by that word). Again, this is old ground, covered in the above document.

 

I still don't know what Tony is getting at though...

 

Please Tony (aka Hama), you started this thread, and although there's several people who appear to understand what you're getting at, I'm afraid I don't. I know from past discussions with you that you are incredibly passionate about trees, but I just don't know what you are getting at here. Give us a shove in the right direction please :001_smile:

 

All will become clear in time, this is not the right format.

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Not being funny about it or anything, just came to realise that this is not the proper place for discussions like this, its a social thing.

 

Been mugged off enough times to realise that:001_rolleyes:

 

Of course it is Tony...theres no knowledge of any quality being shared here at all I suppose :001_huh:

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Not being funny about it or anything, just came to realise that this is not the proper place for discussions like this, its a social thing.

 

Been mugged off enough times to realise that:001_rolleyes:

 

Riddle me this, Riddle me that, for if knowledge is not power, then a god am I:lol:

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