Tree failure

[Tony Croft aka hamadryad]

Now I am looking fully i can see that ductile fracture occurred to the rear of the stem, this is also an area that is slightly discoloured as if to suggest dysfunction if not full on decay. was there any deadwood in the canopy?

[RobRainford]

ill get some more images up for you tomorrow tony, got a close up of the ductile fracture before i filled it with sawdust.

 

i didnt notice anything significant, no rotten areas, there wasnt much on this tree, it seemed to be suppressed by its neighbours.

[treeseer]

Re the remainders, would reduction instead of removal leave a more stable hedge?

[White Noise]

nice and simple, most of the tree was on the ground, i released it at the point where it curved back up to the roof and then just before it was in contact, then i just used a stepladder and used a 200t to piece of the last bits, one roof panel fell in as the weight shifted a bit but other than that it went as i had hoped.

 

Nice one . I was just thinking about glass particles Glad it all went to plan .

[RobRainford]

Re the remainders, would reduction instead of removal leave a more stable hedge?

 

Reducing these poplars to a hedge, will basically be topping them, and in a few years they will become dangerous with regrowth, something i wouldnt want to deal with!

 

i see where you are coming from with that, but imo these trees dont add much to the area they are in, with them covered in ivy, i agree it can be valuable habitat, i have recommended removal and replanting of native british species that will have a higher amenity value.

[treeseer]

"Reducing these poplars to a hedge, will basically be topping them, and in a few years they will become dangerous with regrowth, something i wouldnt want to deal with!"

 

A hedge can be any height, so the reduction need not be so severe that sprouting would be rampant. Also to lower risk, a rope could be woven around the trees. Maybe not a good option, but an option nonetheless...

 

"i see where you are coming from with that, but imo these trees dont add much to the area they are in, with them covered in ivy, i agree it can be valuable habitat,"

 

Yes very valuable. birds etc do not ask plants for their ID or proof of nativeness.

 

" i have recommended removal and replanting of native british species that will have a higher amenity value."

 

 

If I saw them I may agree; lombardies rot pretty easy over here. but re removal/replacement, i always wonder: At what expense?

 

In how many years will contributions be restored?

 

Are we sure?

Edited January 2, 2012 by treeseer

[RobRainford]

"Reducing these poplars to a hedge, will basically be topping them, and in a few years they will become dangerous with regrowth, something i wouldnt want to deal with!"

 

A hedge can be any height, so the reduction need not be so severe that sprouting would be rampant. Also to lower risk, a rope could be woven around the trees. Maybe not a good option, but an option nonetheless...

 

"i see where you are coming from with that, but imo these trees dont add much to the area they are in, with them covered in ivy, i agree it can be valuable habitat,"

 

Yes very valuable. birds etc do not ask plants for their ID or proof of nativeness.

 

" i have recommended removal and replanting of native british species that will have a higher amenity value."

 

 

If I saw them I may agree; lombardies rot pretty easy over here. but re removal/replacement, i always wonder: At what expense?

 

In how many years will contributions be restored?

 

Are we sure?

 

the trees are owned by Manchester Ship Canal, the safety of the trees is their main concern.

 

i wouldnt want to reduce these lombardies, the risk will still be there no matter what is done to these trees, and the homeowner directly underneath these trees will be kept at ease if the trees are removed, this is not what spurred my decision to remove/replant, as the overall condition of the group isnt great, i would rather be proactive on these trees than reactive.

 

they are at the end of a small wooded area, the rest of the woodland are other broadleaves, mainly sycamores, and the ivy is strong in this whole part. Replanting new species, would have to be fairly vigorous to keep on top of the ivy, otherwise the new saplings will be overrun with ivy before they can make an addition to the area.