funghi ident

[brothergrim]

That's just what, I needed, I found that very informative I work In a ill informed environment were people believe that if there's fungi On the tree they think it's dying or not safe to climb which obviously isn't the case it just requires further investigation but without the knowledge your knackered

[brothergrim]

I've just copy and pasted the glossary of terms from the fungi identification, page and that will help me alot I may actually be able to understand some of the things that get posted on here I've I keep referring back to them. !

[Tony Croft aka hamadryad]

That's just what, I needed, I found that very informative I work In a ill informed environment were people believe that if there's fungi On the tree they think it's dying or not safe to climb which obviously isn't the case it just requires further investigation but without the knowledge your knackered

 

Thats what i hang around here for, to help, and when it makes a difference i get immense job satisfaction, not unlike when I do a great reduction.

 

i think arbtalk is invaluable for this aspect, expert knowledge on tap when you need it, and free to all. where else can you get that?

[brothergrim]

I was just saying that to the lads at work, I've done this job for 6 years and there's so much to learn I should be busy for the next 20 lol, and thank you for your invaluable advice I appreciate it

[Treecreeper1961]

ganoderma lipsiense/australe

 

scopes required to know for certain, though tree dying and fungi regressing indicates biotrophic G australe

 

Hamadryad,

 

I am not familiar with Ganoderma lipsiense. I googled it and came across records on the Global Biodiversity Information Facility. Wow, what a facility it is! Most records for the species are for mainland northen Europe, mostly Sweden, with just one for the U.K.

 

However, the GBIF then led me to think that lipsiense is in fact a synonym for applanatum. That sure confused the hell out of me.

 

So, if you don't mind, and I'm not trying to be a wise arse:

 

1. Is Ganoderma lipsiense the same species as G. applanatum?

 

2. Are both G. applanatum and G. australe perennial brackets laying down material year after year?

 

3. If they are, and in the case of other perennial brackets, what does the production of tiered brackets represent? Some brackets seem to grow large whilst others grow a tiered arrangement. Why is this?

 

4. If the fungi is acting in a biotrophic way, what has caused the tree to die? The long term drain from the fungi or secondary causes? Is it not in the interest of the biotroph to keep the tree alive?

 

Cheers.

[Pete Hart]

im enjoying this thread....looking forward to an answer on the above question too!

[sloth]

Hamadryad,

 

I am not familiar with Ganoderma lipsiense. I googled it and came across records on the Global Biodiversity Information Facility. Wow, what a facility it is! Most records for the species are for mainland northen Europe, mostly Sweden, with just one for the U.K.

 

However, the GBIF then led me to think that lipsiense is in fact a synonym for applanatum. That sure confused the hell out of me.

 

So, if you don't mind, and I'm not trying to be a wise arse:

 

1. Is Ganoderma lipsiense the same species as G. applanatum?

 

2. Are both G. applanatum and G. australe perennial brackets laying down material year after year?

 

3. If they are, and in the case of other perennial brackets, what does the production of tiered brackets represent? Some brackets seem to grow large whilst others grow a tiered arrangement. Why is this?

 

4. If the fungi is acting in a biotrophic way, what has caused the tree to die? The long term drain from the fungi or secondary causes? Is it not in the interest of the biotroph to keep the tree alive?

 

Cheers.

 

1 yes

2 yes

3 ?

4 most likely secondary causes, although stress caused by another problem could have been the precursor to a biotroph gaining entry, and yes it is in the interest of biotrophic parasites to leave the tree alive.

[sloth]

Sorry just noticed that was addressed to hama. Feel free to correct me!

[brothergrim]

It's like being in a forieghn country referring to my translation guide to piece together what's being said lol

[Treecreeper1961]

Sorry just noticed that was addressed to hama. Feel free to correct me!

 

No problem, open to all.

 

1. Thought so

 

2. Yes

 

 

3. Just wondering whether the production of multiple brackets relates to phases or 'moments' in the physiology of the fungi and perhaps it's interrelationship with the tree's physiology. Or is it that there is more than one 'individual' present? Could it just be the survival/propagation strategy?

 

4. Agree. Just trying to get a clearer understanding of the relationship between biotrophic parasite and host. The stress/damage/wound that allowed access for the fungi may be or could be the final nail in the coffin also, for tree and fungi but does the parasitic action add to the drain on resources enough to speed up the decline?

 

More questions:

 

5. What is the usual mode of entry for Ganoderma applanatum and australe?

 

6. Is it strictly accurate to describe G. applanatum as a biotroph? What is it's decay strategy/type? Mainly confined to heartwood and therefore not really a biotrophic sp.?

 

7.Where as G. australe can extend into sound sap wood and makes it more appropriately a biotroph?

 

8. Does the effect of the biotroph show in the vigour and vitality of the canopy? and could this give a clue as to the i.d. of the fungi?