Ash tree ident help

[Danavan]

I didn't see the whole tree, but this was about in the office & got some of us thinking..Any ideas? White or green ash? Any clues would be much appreciated. No reason for the ident apart from curiosity & confusion

 

Sorry about picture quality, I took them on my phone..

[RobArb]

oops..

[Paul Jenks]

Manna

[RobArb]

nope, caucasian was what i was trying to say

 

Fraxinus angustifolia ssp. oxycarpa

[RobArb]

nope scrap that, your instincts where right, its a Red Ash (Green Ash), Fraxinus pennsylvanica

[Danavan]

Cheers Robarb, do the buds or the hairs give it away to you? I cant find many pic's in my limited library. Have you got any suggestions as to good ident books you have?

[evergreen]

nope scrap that, your instincts where right, its a Red Ash (Green Ash), Fraxinus pennsylvanica

 

Eh RobArb

 

Help us out here.. How did you come to your conclusion? (Not confrontational, I just cant work it out) Ive had a look and come up with Manna, Red and Green!!! Argh Mr Mitchell (my guide book). i cant tell!!

 

Cheers Nick

[Danavan]

Eh RobArb

 

Help us out here.. How did you come to your conclusion? (Not confrontational, I just cant work it out) Ive had a look and come up with Manna, Red and Green!!! Argh Mr Mitchell (my guide book). i cant tell!!

 

Cheers Nick

 

Had a look in Mr Mitchell book at their office & that had me asking more questions too...Argh..It is the hairs & the scaly buds that me. I have no experience in tree ident & am on a learning curve. Thanks for the input from you all, still unsure now..

[RobArb]

I find Alan Mitchells Books very good especially the 1974 trees of britain and europe edition, i also have Owen Johnsons Tree Guide published by collins(2004)

 

i also have a great big book of leaves, horticulture encyclopedia's and a few othe collins and oxford Tree ID books, I am also doing my dendrology module at Uni so everything is fresh in the memory

 

The difference here between the two (green/red and white ash)(Green ash/red ash is the same tree different continent common name) or "splitters" is the colour of the shoot, the bud and the winged/unwinged leaflet stalks

 

thats how i came up with F. pennsylvanica:thumbup:

[RobArb]

What I must also say is trees can vary within species due to climatic conditions and I'm not 100% correct but 90% sure:biggrin:

 

Its only possible to make an educated guess from a few pictures

 

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