What qualifies as a veteran tree.

[oslac]

As I seem to be the butt of your (Hamadryad's) far superior knowledge and after reading your posts, I now know that I know nothing but hey ho. All I will say is that an ancient tree is also a veteran tree whereas a veteran tree may not be ancient. >.. See if you can work that one out.

[Tony Croft aka hamadryad]

I think you are turning things on its head here.

Veteran trees or trees which are really old usually go through a range of physiological changes which often result in those characteristics being present. Just because a tree has those characteristics does not make the tree a veteran.

 

The guide is explaining that veteran trees usually have these characteristics and therefore they act as signposts to let those who are interested to consider the tree as a possible veteran.

 

not turning it on its head, veterans and ancients are TWO seperate classifications, thats why ATF records go NOTABLE tree VETERAN tree ANCIENT tree

[Tony Croft aka hamadryad]

As I seem to be the butt of your (Hamadryad's) far superior knowledge and after reading your posts, I now know that I know nothing but hey ho. All I will say is that an ancient tree is also a veteran tree whereas a veteran tree may not be ancient. >.. See if you can work that one out.

 

thats what I say! lol, but an ancient may have uba vitality and lack veteran features, am i wrong?

 

im enjoying this argument/debate stay with it, its forcing us all to think:thumbup:

[Tony Croft aka hamadryad]

As I seem to be the butt of your (Hamadryad's) far superior knowledge and after reading your posts, I now know that I know nothing but hey ho. All I will say is that an ancient tree is also a veteran tree whereas a veteran tree may not be ancient. >.. See if you can work that one out.

 

I dont mean to be harsh, i like debate, it is stimulating, stick with the heat man its all good:thumbup:

[oslac]

OK you are on:001_tt2:

 

As a newbie I don't want to come on spouting off but must say what needs saying.

[Tony Croft aka hamadryad]

OK you are on:001_tt2:

 

As a newbie I don't want to come on spouting off but must say what needs saying.

 

 

good good gooooooooooooooooooood, Its all gooood

 

be bold have an opinion and say what you think, I do!

[oslac]

Ok here goes and the thing about arb is that there are several elements which do not all sing from the same hyme book such as the ecological side, the planning and development side and so on and the problem is that semantics get in the way. What one elements calls this another may call it that.

[Tony Croft aka hamadryad]

Ok here goes and the thing about arb is that there are several elements which do not all sing from the same hyme book such as the ecological side, the planning and development side and so on and the problem is that semantics get in the way. What one elements calls this another may call it that.

 

oh yes the proverbial can of worms! unilaterla universal language, the holy grail indeed!

[oslac]

I come from the planning side BS 5837 and all that whereby trees are aged as young, middle age, mature etc. and veteran is at the end of the line as a tree which is more than 100% of its life expectancy.

[Gollum]

OK you are on:001_tt2:

 

As a newbie I don't want to come on spouting off but must say what needs saying.

 

This is the main reason that I started this thread, to find out peoples opinions