Anyone at home ?

[bats-n-trees]

I'm a bit worried about the height of the examples in the first pic.Are you sure those slits are for bats ? !!

 

In days of old when men were bold --- !!

Windsor Great Park you say ? hmm.

 

Second example much better, Ideally suited to high flyers.

[David Humphries]

I'm a bit worried about the height of the examples in the first pic.Are you sure those slits are for bats ? !!

 

In days of old when men were bold --- !!

Windsor Great Park you say ? hmm.

 

Second example much better, Ideally suited to high flyers.

 

 

 

Lifes far too short to go about worrying about such things Alan

 

 

Lower trunk resurections in the first shot aren't specifically for bats.

 

Knowing Ted, there probably more for cats (of the dead variety)

 

 

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[David Humphries]

Hello,

 

I think you bat in the photo is a noctule not a pip.They fly high catch moths etc and like a clear flight path into their roost-which was probably the old woodpecker hole.Is that where it appeared from ? Other species of bats would also like to get in behind that loose bark

 

 

 

Just for reference Alan, the Bat in the set of shots was from under the loose bark.

 

 

Flew off in search of somewhere more appropriate 90 seconds after we came across it.

 

regards

 

 

David

 

 

 

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[tommer9]

I have been following this thread with interest David. I have a pretty big radiata to dismantle in a very wooded valley, albeit this tree is actually in a garden, so slightly more on its own. The tree has a girth of about 6' diameter for about 10', then splits onto about 7 huge limbs forming an upturned hand shape, with a large central leader. How would this tree react to being left as a weird 15' high multi-monolith with slots for habitat? (Im thinking of how quickly the remainig tree, on the edge of a steep slope with a powerline and road 30' below, might decay....)

Can these techniques be used on any timber, or are bats more species specific?

I would be keen to have a go, and think the customer would be most supportive?

[tommer9]

BTW i love the last pic of yours....that lower arrow......I've not heard them referred to like THAT before......

[David Humphries]

BTW i love the last pic of yours....that lower arrow......I've not heard them referred to like THAT before.....

 

 

 

I didn't really think anyone would stoop 'so low' fnar fnar

 

 

 

 

 

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[tommer9]

I thought about it first.....

[David Humphries]

I have been following this thread with interest David. I have a pretty big radiata to dismantle in a very wooded valley, albeit this tree is actually in a garden, so slightly more on its own. The tree has a girth of about 6' diameter for about 10', then splits onto about 7 huge limbs forming an upturned hand shape, with a large central leader. How would this tree react to being left as a weird 15' high multi-monolith with slots for habitat? (Im thinking of how quickly the remainig tree, on the edge of a steep slope with a powerline and road 30' below, might decay....)

Can these techniques be used on any timber, or are bats more species specific?

I would be keen to have a go, and think the customer would be most supportive?

 

 

 

Tbh Tom, I'm not sure any Uk bats are associated specifically with Pines.

Someone else may have a view on that?

 

Would the monolith be monitored at all ?

Could it be guyed to the upslope of the bank?

 

Does it need to actualy remain?

Are there other bits of habitat already there in the vicinity?

Usualy habitat creation is all about addressing the need for a particular loss or lack of habitat.

 

 

I can't see why these types of techniques couldn't be used on any type of tiree species.

 

 

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[tommer9]

Tbh Tom, I'm not sure any Uk bats are associated specifically with Pines.

Someone else may have a view on that?

 

Would the monolith be monitored at all ?

Could it be guyed to the upslope of the bank?

 

Does it need to actualy remain?

Are there other bits of habitat already there in the vicinity?

Usualy habitat creation is all about addressing the need for a particular loss or lack of habitat.

 

 

I can't see why these types of techniques couldn't be used on any type of tiree species.

 

 

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The monolithwould be monitored, by the owner, ho is more than capable (he has don tree work in his day to a small degree loking after gardens etc, now retired) and is certainly a 'naturalist' if you will, and there is scope for guying.

The reason for removal is initially to allow light to photovoltaics, but the tree is showing the early stages of decline, has shed 2 large limbs, and a similar tree 100' away fell into the road etc 3 years ago.

The surrounding area is heavily wooded primarily with sessile oak (a la ancienne cornish woodland) with a softwood plantation very near- so yes, other habitat is in abundance.

It was more a desire to have created some new habitat rather than just leaving a big hole, and that I feel these people would really appreciate the idea too.

[bats-n-trees]

With regard to bats and trees.

 

It is rare to find bats using any type of pine tree for roosting purposes.The reason is generally felt to be the resin factor.As bats land on the tree their fur will come into contact with the resin.This will then act as a glue to make subsequent movement and flight much more difficult.Equally as we all know trying to remove said resin is not easy using natural means.

 

Ecologically speaking leave as much tree standing as is prudent for public safety.Adding a few nooks and crannies by mechanical means will be of definate benefit to wildlife.

 

Hope this helps.