dangerous trees (identifying ownership?)

[Charlieh]

I have a situation im dealing with at the moment, where a row of willows have died along a river bank, they are all about 40ft tall and been dead a while (about 20trees total).

 

now the issue is these trees sit between a drystone wall and the river bank. The owner of the fishing rights say their not his, the LA say there not theirs, the two adjoining landowners say there not theirs,

 

so the question is whos are they, the reason this is an issue is the other side of the drystone wall is a footpath and road!

 

so far no one has done anything about them but three of the trees have a pronounced lean over the road and its only a matter of time before one drops (two have recently dropped into the river luckily)

 

I have attached two pics that hopefully explain it better, the road and path is behind the wall, i must stress these pics dont show the more dangerous trees over the path

 

or should i pay for a land registery query (which could come back blank due to the small area)

[christreeroot]

My fave area - looking at the photos the wall is clearly the boundry... The trees dont even sit on the boundary - the owner of the fishing rights doesnt have a leg to stand on.......

[christreeroot]

Is the path LA owned or private ?

[Charlieh]

trouble is he is just that, owner of the fishing rights not the riverbed or adjoining land in legal terms!

 

path and road would be LA owned but they are denying the trees are anything to do with them, as currently theres lots of bickering about whos paying for the two in the river to be removed.

 

my view is sod the two in the river, their safe. Get the rest down before they drop over a public right of way!

[Patchwork]

those trees really are dead dead

[kevwrenn]

environment agency???? if not they may be able to point you in the right direction!

[Charlieh]

its not main river so EA have no remit, all they have been able to do is tell us landowners who we already knew anyway.

 

 

should we just drop them and feel good about doing a good dead and not worry about payment? as thats they stage its getting to.

 

it panics me know that they are they especially as this is a very very high visitor area

[christreeroot]

If there are trees over public land the LA have a duty of care to take action.... Once job is sorted they can find out who is responible and charge appropriately.....

[christreeroot]

its not main river so EA have no remit, all they have been able to do is tell us landowners who we already knew anyway.

 

 

should we just drop them and feel good about doing a good dead and not worry about payment? as thats they stage its getting to.

 

 

 

 

it panics me know that they are they especially as this is a very very high visitor area

 

Ring the local rag - the LA will soon sort out:icon14:

[Charlieh]

ok cheers for that, will ring them first thing tomorrow and try and get someone out to look at them ASAP. (LA not local rag)

 

the river is a county boundary, mid point is boundary of a SAC, entire river is SSSI its in a national park there are about 2million visitors locally annually. It beggers beleif that this hasnt been delt with earlier.