Looks like no more Makita Petrol Saws

[Bolt]

1 hour ago, DCS6800i said:

 

 

You're also ignoring the huge burden and strain charging all these batteries will put on the national grid which is already feeling the load.

 

Apparently, it is possible to charge battery devices at night using the existing surplus of electricity.

[Bolt]

1 hour ago, DCS6800i said:

 

Those power stations also need to produce electricity constantly, even if nobody is using it... all releasing c02 into the atmosphere at ever higher levels.

 

Apparently , it is possible to charge battery devices at night using the existing surplus of electricity.

[Bolt]

10 minutes ago, DCS6800i said:

 

Oil rigs, refineries, and all else you've posted there are still needed even with electric cars and saws...

 

How else will you make the plastic?!

 

Your point is that petrol saws draw from existing infrastructure, my point is so do battery saws.

 

For the record, I own over a dozen petrol saws, no electric saws and one batteries saw, so you can draw from that whatever you wish.

 

I have a nice old DCS6400 and I’m very fond of it.  I’m not giving it up any time soon.  I have learned to recognise progress and advantage when I see it though.

[DCS6800i]

40 minutes ago, Bolt said:

Apparently, it is possible to charge battery devices at night using the existing surplus of electricity.

 

My point was, you can't swap them over when you're sleeping. You'd need lots of chargers - so if you need 5 batteries each day in the woods, you'd maybe need 3 chargers, or upto 5!, so that you can get them all charged ready for the next day.

[DCS6800i]

31 minutes ago, Bolt said:

Your point is that petrol saws draw from existing infrastructure, my point is so do battery saws.

 

For the record, I own over a dozen petrol saws, no electric saws and one batteries saw, so you can draw from that whatever you wish.

 

I have a nice old DCS6400 and I’m very fond of it.  I’m not giving it up any time soon.  I have learned to recognise progress and advantage when I see it though.

 

Exactly. They draw from existing infrastructure. The whole premis behind switching to electric is that it's clean. Well, it's not. It's just shifting where the fossil fuel is spent (burned) to create that energy used...

 

My point is that it is not clean. I don't believe it is any cleaner than what we are doing now. I am not saying we don't need to look and try to do things better - but I am saying electricity is not the answer some believe it is.

 

Progress in terms of technology, maybe, and on that side of it I have no axe. But I do have a problem with saying it's greener just because it's new

[Bolt]

3 minutes ago, DCS6800i said:

 

My point was, you can't swap them over when you're sleeping. You'd need lots of chargers - so if you need 5 batteries each day in the woods, you'd maybe need 3 chargers, or upto 5!, so that you can get them all charged ready for the next day.

I have not had this problem.  The biggest battery I have is a BLI300 battery.  This charges on a pretty mediocre battery charger in less than an hour.  I was going to get a car charger, but for arb work,  I haven’t found the need to bother.  I have taken the mains charger with me to a few jobs, but never found I needed to bother the customer to plug it in.
 

 

[DCS6800i]

3 minutes ago, Bolt said:

I have not had this problem.  The biggest battery I have is a BLI300 battery.  This charges on a pretty mediocre battery charger in less than an hour.  I was going to get a car charger, but for arb work,  I haven’t found the need to bother.  I have taken the mains charger with me to a few jobs, but never found I needed to bother the customer to plug it in.
 

 

 

How would your saw battery last in a firewood situation, ringing up 3' oak or beech all afternoon?...

 

Or 2 miles out on a hill felling and snedding all day?

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[Bolt]

3 minutes ago, DCS6800i said:

 

Exactly. They draw from existing infrastructure. The whole premis behind switching to electric is that it's clean. Well, it's not. It's just shifting where the fossil fuel is spent (burned) to create that energy used...

 

My point is that it is not clean. I don't believe it is any cleaner than what we are doing now. I am not saying we don't need to look and try to do things better - but I am saying electricity is not the answer some believe it is.

 

Progress in terms of technology, maybe, and on that side of it I have no axe. But I do have a problem with saying it's greener just because it's new

You are arguing with the wrong fella, I’m afraid.

 

I don’t give a **************** about being green.  I like chainsawing.

 

I like chainsawing with petrol saws, and because I’m a curious kind of guy, I invested in a battery saw and I like chainsawing with that too.  
 

 

[Bolt]

7 minutes ago, DCS6800i said:

 

How would your saw battery last in a firewood situation, ringing up 3' oak or beech all afternoon?...

 

Or 2 miles out on a hill felling and snedding all day?

Well, as it’s a T540i, it would probably be a bit sh!t, but then it’s closest petrol equivalent (ms200t) would be a bit sh!t also, don’t you think?

 

 

 

 

[DCS6800i]

Just now, Bolt said:

You are arguing with the wrong fella, I’m afraid.

 

I don’t give a **************** about being green.  I like chainsawing.

 

I like chainsawing with petrol saws, and because I’m a curious kind of guy, I invested in a battery saw and I like chainsawing with that too.  
 

 

 

I never said you wanted to be green. But that is why saws are being made to run cleaner, more efficient and now going towards electric... I didn't realise I was arguing - it came across as you hadn't got the point I was making that these new saws are no more environmentally friendly than the old ones...

 

I've never made any comments of how good or bad the electric saws are. As I've already said I've no axe with the technology in terms of the product. I've also no experience of them, yet, - I run older kit all bought 2nd or 3rd hand (except for my 6401 which was new). I do all my own servicing, repairs and tinkering...