"That" Nottingham Walnut tree

[Ian C]

Sorry to hear of your hassle. Totally undeserved, unmerited and unwarranted, I sympathise with you.

 

Social media and public reaction to tree work is an absolute disgrace at times and full of ignorant uneducated and ill informed fools.

Sadly stoked by very poorly managed public trees like the Sheffield debacle and privately owned trees like on development sites which are getting netted. 

 

That can only change by a continued line of education and information to the public as to what’s happening to the trees and why. (Planning notifications etc..)

 

People like trees and all the good they do us at a conscious and subconsciously level and get upset when what they see those trees disappear from their treescape, often not replaced.

 

Playing the advocate of the one that should not be named, had the tree had any structural survey before being condemned?

 

Yes it is significantly decayed, (it appears quite hollow in the stem) oddly enough trees actually go through that process in their lifespan and can remain standing and even leaning like that for many decades.

 

How were the roots and trunk base?

 

Your original picture ‘appears’ to show a vascularly healthy tree with full canopy and buds and also strong vital active outer sapwood layer.

 

Had any consideration been given to reduce the tree to help mitigate the ‘potential’ risk of collapse?

 

I think I’d be disappointed if I had that tree in a neighbouring garden and it got taken down.

 

 

 

Fair points David however getting the general public to pay good money or convincing them it’s going to be safe after a reduction is like platting fog, given a choice they will mostly go for removal, to most domestics cost is a big factor and a one time removal over reducing it wins, I bet the neighbours who kicked off didn’t offer to pay towards any work to save it.

 

[roseyweb]

It's why I left Facebook 

time wasters looking for work and the local newbies looking who I'm working for, 

i just pop in to defend my self now from time to time 

[kevinjohnsonmbe]

4 hours ago, David Humphries said:

Sorry to hear of your hassle.

Totally undeserved, unmerited and unwarranted, I sympathise with you.

 

Social media and public reaction to tree work is an absolute disgrace at times and full of ignorant uneducated and ill informed fools.

Sadly stoked by very poorly managed public trees like the Sheffield debacle and privately owned trees like on development sites which are getting netted. 

 

That can only change by a continued line of education and information to the public as to what’s happening to the trees and why. (Planning notifications etc..)

 

People like trees and all the good they do us at a conscious and subconsciously level and get upset when what they see those trees disappear from their treescape, often not replaced.

 

Playing the advocate of the one that should not be named, had the tree had any structural survey before being condemned?

 

Yes it is significantly decayed, (it appears quite hollow in the stem) oddly enough trees actually go through that process in their lifespan and can remain standing and even leaning like that for many decades.

 

How were the roots and trunk base?

 

Your original picture ‘appears’ to show a vascularly healthy tree with full canopy and buds and also strong vital active outer sapwood layer.

 

Had any consideration been given to reduce the tree to help mitigate the ‘potential’ risk of collapse?

 

I think I’d be disappointed if I had that tree in a neighbouring garden and it got taken down.

 

4 hours ago, Ian C said:

 

 

Fair points David however getting the general public to pay good money or convincing them it’s going to be safe after a reduction is like platting fog, given a choice they will mostly go for removal, to most domestics cost is a big factor and a one time removal over reducing it wins, I bet the neighbours who kicked off didn’t offer to pay towards any work to save it.

 

2 great posts! 

 

The art of the possible over laid by the harsh reality (esp domestic)

 

A scenario which was presented at the recent tree architecture/.Morphophysiology  seminar @ Barchams covered a situation where ‘apparently’ structurally compromised trees (2 previous, separate, consultant reports had recommended removal) were re-assessed applying a different approach and the culturally important trees were retained. 

 

2 key elements to the retention were the more enlightened assessment process and, most importantly, the desire and commitment of the tree owner to retain the trees.  I think it was a university so one would rightly expect the cultural, academic, financial resources to recognise and preserve the assets. 

 

Achieving that level of enlightenment in the domestic sector will always be a huge challenge ?

 

PS - there are an ever increasing number of complete fruit loops on the various FB tree pages.  Sheffield, Horse Chestnut Ave, netting etc seems to have energised the public - which is great - but it may be a beast that grows out of control!

Edited April 27, 2019 by kevinjohnsonmbe