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1 hour ago, Tom D said:

I has a long chat with Simon Richmond today, we talked over this at some length. The upshot of this I will post in another thread as it needs a fresh start.

 

Suffice to say that getting this ruling / legislation overturned will be very difficult, but the new icop for climbing (currently being written) will contain certain recommendations as to when a two rope system is not appropriate. As this document has not yet been produced there is the opportunity for the industry to have its say in the process. So I will start another thread to get the ball rolling. This won’t be tonight though..

Interesting. Will you be opening the thread in the SRT/ climbing section? I think this may attract another audience. 

The collective brain storming in this thread is inspiring. Be good to see what others who may not venture into this area think too.

Look forward to reading your new findings..

Nothing constructive in this post. Just a general rant.. Read or ignore if you wish.

I am struggling to see how SRWP is deemed less safe than the DdRT method otherwise on offer.

The anchor point selection is pretty similar.

The load sharing via static pre loaded re-direct as opposed dynamic in DdRT, with the then lessened angle working position afforded to the climber on extremity of the crown that can not be achieved with a dynamic system as effectively.

The ability to again isolate a re-direct away from another working rope as sometimes encountered in rigging operations.

To highlight a few advantages imo.

Maybe a working demo in the techniques the HSE see fit to employ in our everyday situations should be organised. 

This may show all of us dinosaur SRWP climbers how to effectively and safety move around the tree.

The inclusion of self rescue whilst managing two ropes would be great to see too. (I remember on one aerial rescue refresher course I did we where asked to go to a work station on the crown extremity, then asked to get back down with one hand behind our back) two rope system.. ok unclip one line and descend on the other. Throw panic and fear into the mix... Yes I know their are ways around this. But... why complicate matters. 

Maybe a rigging demo on a large mature deciduous tree with multiple complex lowers and lifts that are required to complete the task in hand. 

While their at it they can also hold a workshop in how we are to run our business in an already competitive market that seemingly penalises companies for adhering to the current legislation thus allowing the more cut corner cutters to slash prices to the home/land owner who mostly want the cheapest price. 

Just what has made the HSE feel it is time to re write things? I'm all up for a safer working environment. I would like to know which stats lead to this discussion in the first instance. A bunch of RIDDOR reports with SRT/SRWP as the primary contributory factors? 

Rant over.. for now....

22 hours ago, AA Teccie (Paul) said:

Sorry can’t help here.

Cheers Paul. Hopefully more info once the ink has dried.

14 hours ago, AA Teccie (Paul) said:

Sorry can’t help here.

Cheers Paul. Hopefully more info once the ink has dried.

I'm interested in the rigours risk assessment as newly layed out by LANTRA within their SRWP award that allows us to use a single rope to safely work the tree. 

Can anyone shine some light on this matter? 

Cheers