Jump to content

Konstantly

Member
  • Content Count

    41
  • Joined

  • Last visited

About Konstantly

  • Rank
    Member

Recent Profile Visitors

The recent visitors block is disabled and is not being shown to other users.

  1. Any IRATA level 3 qualified operatives out their who wish to input into this topic? As previously mentioned rescue from an ASAP or similar device will need extra training. Generally in rope access work I believe that a level 3 has to be in close proximity to other operatives in case the need for rescue arises? If we are to transfer these methods to tree work dose this mean that a secondary rescue line installed within the tree will still be applicable? Or will two climbers have to be in the tree at all times too? More ropes, more targets another person wah... the list can go on.. If the hse are paying any attention to this topic can we please have some input too? We all seem to be stabbing in the dark towards a non existent light at the end of the tunnel atm. A little light to aim towards Would be nice...
  2. As comments previously outlined, putting climbers into a scenario where cutting a secondary life line is thought off will be a huge HSE issue for a person who is already in a state of shock and confusion, especially if that person is thinking of self rescue. Use of Asap looks great on paper. In reality?? If this set of regulations is actually being seriously considered and to be implemented then HSE have to make the reasons more accessible to us all. We need to see justified reasonable response to our concerns from the powers that see fit to have our best concerns in their hands. Having a voice is pointless if it is not heard or responded to. The points made by many on this and other forums are valid and should be treated as so.
  3. Thanks Paul. I also read that ground level felling should be approached with caution, especially with the use of wedges.
  4. Just putting it out their. When I go for work positions (even SRWP) in some instances I use my free hand (afforded by the use of one knot system) to stabilise myself and pull myself to an optimal position. This is also a technique used in IRATA when moving across spans of 1.3m and further in level 1 into level 2. I'm not clear on how this will be implemented when having to manage two systems? I may have misunderstood IRATA and not quoted sufficiently. Please feel free to correct me.
  5. Thanks Paul. Have heard that hand cutting should be last resort. Can't remember where I saw the info so this is great and clarifies what I am saying to people I work with as we are increasingly seeing and removing trees that i suspect have it. I would expect that the use of MEWP is even more imperative at risk assessment stage if felling is not an option.
  6. Would be more than happy to travel to demo the benefits of SRWP on your next demo day (if the price is right 😅) Seriously though.. Sounds as if you are making great headway in making your voice heard to those that may not have as great an understanding of day to day issues within the treeworker rope technician scenarios.
  7. I am interested in seeing the proposed system put into practice. Incorporating it safely and efficiently within a bunch of everyday scenarios. As I see the pitfalls of as previously pointed out in previous posts, not mentioning the fact that the potential in some scenarios a secondary load/shock loaded anchor may not be available in the dynamic unpredictable organisms we work with and if they are they may introduce us to as said a shock load. The systems we all generally employ at present time for anchor point selection obviously relay upon informed/educated decisions. Anchor point failure can be safeguarded with the correct deployment of a good SRWP understanding and back up that is ill afforded in a DdRT configuration. The broken record.......Education not legislation
  8. The ability to share loads throughout the structure of a tree to achieve a safer working position. You will reduce the angles of your work position thus reducing a potential of greater pendulum swings. The ability of having a backed up system should your anchor point fail. In the right configuration a redundant base anchor/retrieval end of your TIP could be used as an access line for accent to a TIP for rescue. I believe that with the right training and acquired knowledge that SRWP is and can be a lot safer and more ergonomic than DdRT. As with everything knowledge is key..
  9. Who defined the way we work as rope access as apposed to work positioning as was? (HSE, AA, other) Seems that this kicked this whole s*@t storm off as well as some stats thrown in. Not trying to lay blame, just would like to see the documentation and reasoning behind this all. If available would someone who knows where to find it be kind enough to let us all know so that we can all read and have informed comments on the matter.
  10. As far as I've read the AA with other notable climbers who I'm sure will have put on a good demo showing thatour current practices are safe (to a point). They will have put our case across but fell on deaf ears, poked out eyes and the inability to see reason beyond a 2 separate anchor/rope system.
  11. How many roofers do you see blatantly ignoring the HSE, no doubt plumbers and sparkies too behind closed doors. Bet the building industry have similar problems with the HSE not enforcing yet more legislation that companies with good intentions adhered too. We tend to make a little more noise than them and attract nosey neighbours, thus attention.. yet still the cut corner cutters get away with it. I think someone pointed it out already. More companies will just give all the accreditation the rods and get away with it.. get fined.. fine. Will have saved the money from not spending it on training and further development.... is this the way to go? No... name n shame. Super grass. Self regulation? Most likely not. More focus on training and further development to a safe working practices on the tools? Much more preferable... Agree with your points. I'm sure in the case, would an extra rope on a separate anchor prevented the fall from cut line/failure of anchor point then the awnser would be yes in a court inquest. The question is why did the anchor failure occur or rope get cut? Surely a better understanding of force impact on said points and better work position with saw management should be looked at as an option at training and initial mentorship times. Not having these occurrences in the first instance needs to be addressed. Not tangling us all up with more legislation and ropes that will make work more complex than it need be. Not to mention other valied points made elsewhere in the thread.
  12. Agree with your points. I'm sure in the case, would an extra rope on a separate anchor prevented the fall from cut line/failure of anchor point then the awnser would be yes in a court inquest. The question is why did the anchor failure occur or rope get cut? Surely a better understanding of force impact on said points and better work position with saw management should be looked at as an option at training and initial mentorship times. Not having these occurrences in the first instance needs to be addressed. Not tangling us all up with more legislation and ropes that will make work more complex than it need be. Not to mention other valied points made elsewhere in the thread.
  13. Great. Thanks Dave J/John. Can you publish the rigours risk assessment for us all to peruse over? I know that you have not directly upload this but the info you may have available may give others a chance to have a collective input..

About

Arbtalk.co.uk is a hub for the arboriculture industry in the UK.  
If you're just starting out and you need business, equipment, tech or training support you're in the right place.  If you've done it, made it, got a van load of oily t-shirts and have decided to give something back by sharing your knowledge or wisdom,  then you're welcome too.
If you would like to contribute to making this industry more effective and safe then welcome.
Just like a living tree, it'll always be a work in progress.
Please have a look around, sign up, share and contribute the best you have.

See you inside.

The Arbtalk Team

Follow us

×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

We have placed cookies on your device to help make this website better. You can adjust your cookie settings, otherwise we'll assume you're okay to continue.