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  1. wilde

    Milling guide

    Its got quite a variety of trees and geography, including a gully/abandoned track bed with embankments covered in trees ideal for a good sized rope swing and I guess a zipline, or in WW2 it was used to hide a military gun to shoot down the Germans. Military bunker remains are there too as during the wars a potential invasion was planned for so in the knees they built a military camp as it made for a good vantage point to see the mainline rail line which they thought the Germans would use to get further inland. Whilst you cant see it just behind the mobile/temporary building is a massive concrete water storage tank, about 5x the size of the mobile at least used to supply the engines to the railway during the steam era
  2. wilde

    Milling guide

    Finally got down there today and took some pics of a good variety of the trees that reflect the better sized ones as obviously no point taking pics of the smaller ones, are these sizes/quality worth milling? The poles ae 4m tall and trunks on average are 2-2.5ft diameter with bigger sizes. I included a few extras to reflect/show its not all plain sailing, it would be sad imo to see them go as logs if they're worth the effort of milling because there is a greater supply of logs than millable timber
  3. wilde

    Milling guide

    Whilst not able to provide pictures for a few days I did realise google had some images as people have uploaded them, location is "The Knees Woodlands" Google Maps WWW.GOOGLE.CO.UK Find local businesses, view maps and get driving directions in Google Maps. Hopefully the links should be ok Pictures are: Google Maps WWW.GOOGLE.CO.UK Find local businesses, view maps and get driving directions in Google Maps.
  4. wilde

    Milling guide

    thanks, its good to get some helpful feedback, yours and a few others is the kind of useful direction pointers that I need, for example the idea of not felling but first letting people see the sticks standing first. The rest of the work involves climbing 100's of trees to do a variety of work from taking large swathes of material out to just a few branches, some of the problems are that it's never been managed, ivy covered a fair few of the trees so will invariably make the job unpleasant, most of the trees are in the woodland but there are also many around the site and down the tracks (well over 200 trees I'd estimate outside the woodlands). They have never had apart from myself over the past few years an experienced tree surgeon to get any work done and so no work ever has been done.
  5. wilde

    Milling guide

    Or Trigger if the timber were worth something I could get the timber prepped by myself and some of the charities equipment/volunteers, I could get some money for the timber to live off, the timber company/miller etc can get some potentially nice timber and the railway gets the trees managed. Ultimately if your not going to be answering with any useful comment I suggest you go back to blabbering of Facebook as people don't want messages telling them there's another comment on Arbtalk. I do thank all others, I'll see if I can get some pics of some of the "better" trees later possibly next week
  6. wilde

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    Woodland survey was done but really dreadfully (long story personally not me who chose company etc) there are big oaks, Ash, Elm and Sycamore that need to come down along with an loads of dead wood too. Charity own the woodlands and have agreed I cant get the work done however possible because for them to do it they'd have to pay £1000's
  7. wilde

    Milling guide

    Because they cannot pay for tree management, there's about £60000 of work to get done, I am going to be using my equipment, including chipper etc to get it safe and managed. Can you do £60000 of work for nothing? I doubt it. It isn't cherry picking the timber its trying to get the work done whilst paying bills like a mortgage and not getting divorced because I volunteered for 2 months, spent savings on equipment, fuel etc.
  8. wilde

    Milling guide

    trigger, without knowing if the timber is worth anything I couldn't promise anyone anything, I'm happy to work with someone as like me I wouldn't expect them to invest several days/weeks etc volunteering but first I need to establish a worth and best use for the timber. As someone suggested someone in the group could be local (unlikely but you never know) I wouldn't expect people to travel far, having someone come down to look was based on someone being fairly local or passing close by
  9. wilde

    Milling guide

    I do appreciate this is a forum full of professionals but please bare in mind this is a charity I am trying to help, I am not getting paid myself unless I can make money out of the timber that could be worthless. What I dont want to do is spend time wondering aimlessly through google search results researching to find the timber value wont even cover my expenses etc, I cant afford to spend months "volunteering" with a wife and kids, it is simply not viable. Also I did initially only ask if there were any good sources ie books/links etc. So please don't feel too pissed off for me asking for guidance on where specifically to look for useful information. Someone did suggest someone could come down and I do honestly think a quick 30min walk around the woodlands max would enable someone to give me at least an idea as to what could be worth investing time in. It could be worth there time if they wanted the timber which we could cut, stack, prepare for collection etc. I'm not saying this to have a go btw, surely people can appreciate if there were good books out there for example people would suggest them. If I were asking for advice on fungi ID for example people would list a good number of books right?
  10. wilde

    Milling guide

    Voluntary organisation is a preserved railway but basically its more diverse (well just about), there's a woodlands and its got quite a lot of wildlife throughout the site, including in the woodlands. Apart from keeping paths clear the railway has never managed it which on the plus side I think there could be valuable timber there, on the downside lots of trees are in a bad way either dead or with serious dieback and deadwood. We are just looking at getting the woodlands safe and not to clear it/venture into long term milling, hence my cautious approach ad just wanting someone to give it a quick once over as someone with good knowledge could easily I'm sure give a quick answer of what economically would be the best approach. There are also trees on the site which need sorting out and whilst reading through the forums is one way of gaining knowledge it doesn't have the benefits of an index, contents page and chapters etc. I wasn't trying to be lazy because I cant be arsed, I am thus far doing this as a volunteer as until I can establish the value of the timber I am guessing I'll be getting not a lot for it. Personally I had wanted to establish a new management plan to create a wildflower meadow/strip along the trackside to encourage some of the rare species we have down there, following the tree survey they had done and being the only tree surgeon down there and not being that interested in trains for many decades now I've been given/accepted the task of getting the woodland sorted
  11. wilde

    Milling guide

    To clarify I'm afraid not initially, seems selfish but atm I'm just after finding out first whether its even worth bothering milling, paying someone to find that out is something I cant afford, especially when it could be just log grade timber. That said, should it be worth milling I'd definitely be willing to negotiate
  12. wilde

    Milling guide

    That's a good idea, if anyone can help even on advice that would be great, the site is the East Kent Railway at Shepherdswell (Kent near Dover) , right next to the mainline. As its a voluntary group and I'm a member I'm literally doing the work for the timber as they're not in a position to pay especially with covid19 screwing there revenues. I need all the good help and advice possible as we all know its not a project for profit I just need to justify spending so much time down there and investing in equipment needed
  13. wilde

    Milling guide

    I did, I was hoping to find a fairly clear guide to the process rather than spending a whole week going through posts/websites/you tube etc 80% of which would be of little/no use, one example was when I searched "guide to milling timber" hundreds of people/results showing how to use a saw mill when I really just wanted more technical data around the timber rather than the machinery. I haven't had a week to spare for about 4 years... I have a wife kids and a business to run
  14. Having looked on the internet as much as possible and got 6 billion unhelpful answers and trying to trying to search on here and not got enough time to filter through all the search results I just thought I'd ask. Is there any website or literature that will help me as a guide to learning how best to go about milling timber, by which I mean getting the cuts in the right places, drying, which timber is god for what etc. I know nothing about the subject so need to start learning it but I cant seem to find anywhere that gives any starting guides etc


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