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On 03/12/2023 at 18:04, Peter Olley said:
I have been looking into completing the SEG (previously ABC) level 4 diploma in arboriculture in recent years, which seemed like the obvious route to progress past level 2/3 after many years. However, I have seen Myerscough College now offer a 2-year level 4 apprenticeship known as: "Level 4 Arboriculturist Apprenticeship Standard".
Has anyone been on this course or know someone that has? If so, do you know how it compares to the SEG level 4 in terms of content and industry recognition?
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
There is a job advert for the L4 Arboriculture apprenticeship with AWA Trees with the training provider being Myerscough College in the employment section in here - posted on Monday - with a link to the job advert/details - so a perfect opportunity for you to find out more.
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Hi Peter,
You can find out about the apprenticeship here:
https://www.instituteforapprenticeships.org/apprenticeship-standards/arboriculturist-v1-0
The Level 4 in Arboriculture does not appear to be a mandatory qualification so I would check with the training provider to find out if this is included.
Lynher Training
We will be running our classroom based Level 4 Award in Arboriculture in Spring 2024 here on the Devon/Cornwall border. -
If you go to the NPTC site below and search for a centre it should bring up NPTC centres local to you who can offer it. However the main issue is that there isn't that many assessors so it's finding out if you are in the right spot with easy access to an assessor and frequently run courses.
https://www.nptc.org.uk/qualificationschemedetail.aspx?id=576&back=qual
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The Forestry Training Fund has now become the Forestry and Arboriculture Training Fund with Aerial courses becoming available for funding. The Fund is due to reopen later this month so do keep an eye out for this. We haven't been told how much funding will be available so no idea how quickly it will be spent. The candidates we have had through from the previous registrations seem to have found the process easy. So probably worth a look if you are looking to get into the industry or taking next steps in your career.
We are a registered training provider for the scheme on the Devon/Cornwall border with training taking place in West Devon and East Cornwall.
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Pop your postcode in here for all the nearest NPTC centres.
https://www.nptc.org.uk/qualificationschemedetail.aspx?id=499&back=
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NPTC certificates are lifetime qualifications however HSE want to see refresher training every 3-5 years (so do most insurance companies). NPTC now have CPD qualification which are principally a day with an assessor checking that you are all up-to-date with legislation and haven't picked up any bad habits since your last training. This would probably be the best option for you. Just contact your local NPTC centre and they should be able to arrange.
https://www.nptc.org.uk/qualificationschemes.aspx?id=16&back=cpd
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If it's the Level 4 in Arboriculture that you are looking at then there is a reading list which you can find here: https://skillsandeducationgroupawards.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/Qualifications/1466-IA-1__Reading List.pdf
Our next Level 4 Award covering the the Tree biomechanics and Woodland Management modules will start in Spring 2024. Its classroom based with 7 sessions once a month. www.lynhertraining.com
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Yes I'm afraid you would need to redo the whole test. Always good for cementing your knowledge though.
We have a 3 day PTI coming up on the 25th September. Anybody looking to resit can just attend the last day for the exam. We also have a refresher on the 31st August for those who hold the certificate but need to ensure their knowledge is still up to scratch (and prove that for insurance).
All training takes place at Yelverton near Plymouth, Devon. Get in touch on [email protected] or 01822 832232 if you are interested.
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We'd recommend something like this. Use the 'find a provider' to see if it's available near you.
First Aid at Work +F - Lantra
WWW.LANTRA.CO.UK
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We would like to hear from any Level 4 Arboriculture Qualification (SEG/previously ABC) Instructors/Assessors looking for new opportunities. This opportunity would potentially be to teach one day a month on the Devon/Cornwall border (but all up for discussion) and there may be other teaching opportunities available.
If you are interested then do get in touch either via email on [email protected] 0r give us a call on 01822 832232 to discuss further.
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The Lantra Professional Tree Inspection course information states:
"Our course doesn't cover report writing, but your presentation of findings will be examined and advice given."
The main element of the PTI is knowledge of Tree ID, Pests, Diseases, Fungi and Disorders. Tree Surveying is recorded in forms and there is also a written exam. So you would not be required to write lengthy reports during this course.
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If you are only looking for assessment then you need a NPTC test centre which you can find by clicking 'find a centre' here. If you want training then they will also know who can do it, if they don't.
https://www.nptc.org.uk/qualificationschemedetail.aspx?id=551&back=qual
Hope that helps.
Lynher Training
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Hi @Eddyisok
We cannot define the differences entirely but it appears that the HCC is delivered online with materials sent to you with two years to complete the qualification; whilst Treelife is classroom based over 1 year. Hence the cost difference. Its all down to how you learn; some students can just knuckle down on their own and find the time to do the work and stay motivated, whilst some like to keep it separate and face-to-face with opportunities to ask questions during the learning and bounce off other students. We offer the Level 4 Arb as a classroom based course so it is more expensive then an online course but you get that one-to-one interaction, questioning and community.
All depends on your experience whether you start at Level 2 or 3. Our Level 3 Forestry and Arb qualifications take you from training about Tree ID right through to Tree Survey and Inspection. Many of our students are just starting out and don't find it over demanding. Many have then gone on to the Level 4 which has a higher level of coursework requirements; which the level 3 has prepared them for. (Think of the Level 2 as a GCSE and the Level 3 as an A'Level; however you should have one or the other before moving onto the Level 4)
Hope that helps.
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@Kemosabe Post it in the employment section or it will quickly get lost in this one. We have had good views for our apprenticeship adverts in the employment section. Good Luck in finding yourself a good candidate.
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Probably easier to get the Arb Association version here:
Arboricultural Association - Technical Guide 1: Tree Climbing & Aerial Rescue
A source of publications, guidance notes and leaflets for arboriculturists. Competitively priced available to members...Especially if you are in the UK with UK rules and legislation?
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Best option is to do a centre search here:
https://www.nptc.org.uk/qualificationschemedetail.aspx?id=552&back=qual
This will show all the nptc test centres; if they don't do the training then they will know who will.
Lynher Training
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Recommendation from the City & Guilds Forestry and Arboriculture qualification are:
As taken form the City&Guilds handbook which is freely available online
Arboricultural Association. 1994. A Guide to Tree Pruning. Cheltenham: Arboricultural Association. ISBN 090097821X.
Arboricultural Association. 2005. Arboricultural Association Health and Safety Package. Cheltenham: Arboricultural Association. ISBN 0900978406.
British Standards Association. 1966. BS 3998: Recommendations for Tree Work. British Standards Institute. ISBN 0580171701.
British Standards Association. 1966. BS 3998: Recommendations for Tree Work. British Standards Institute. ISBN 0580171701.
Brown, G., Kirkham, T. 2009. The Pruning of Trees, Shrubs and Conifers. Portland: Timber Press. 2004. ISBN 0881926132.
Cottam, M., McKeown, L., White, C. 2006. A Guide to Good Climbing Practice. Cheltenham: Arboricultural Association. ISBN 0900978392.
Donzelli, P.S., Lilly, S.J. 2001. The Art and Science of Practical Rigging. Canada: International Society of Arboriculture.
Jepson, J. 2000. The Tree Climber's Companion: A Reference And Training Manual For Professional Tree Climbers. Springfield: Access Publishing Inc.. ISBN 0615112900.
Mynors, C. 2010. The Law of Trees, Forests and Hedgerows. 2nd ed. London: Sweet and Maxwell. ISBN 0421590408.
Shigo, A.L. 1989. Tree Pruning: A Worldwide Photo Guide. Snohomish: Shigo and Trees Associates. ISBN 0943563089
Hope that helps.
Lynher Training
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As per comment above download the schedule, which now called a handbook, here:
https://www.nptc.org.uk/assets/documents/de619c6a69ee4fdea49114d1def35a91.pdf
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For the H&S side - The Tree work at Heights from the AA
https://www.trees.org.uk/Trees.org.uk/files/aa/aaa89992-0539-4615-9af4-32b0582a13f4.pdf
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NPTC now offer CPD badges for refresher training. This means you get your refresher covered with a NPTC assessor and have an official NPTC badge to confirm that you are to standard. So, yes, up skilling is the best way to go so he could also do the felling up to 760mm but, if this isn't appropriate, you can get the felling officially refreshed if required.
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On 27/04/2022 at 08:13, Hodge said:
What is available for an apprentice in Arb? I'm looking to possibly take one on.
The arborist standard is the one you need to look at.
You can find your local training providers by clicking the link on the above website.
Getting signed up for the apprenticeship service is one of the first step (if you haven't employed anyone before and need to set up PAYE then this can take some time), then you can reserve your funding. At the same time get talking to your local training providers about how they run the apprenticeship and then get recruiting, which the training provider can help you with.
How-to guide to the apprenticeship service here:
How to register and use the apprenticeship service as an employer - GOV.UK
Guidance on how to use the apprenticeship service to access funds to pay for apprenticeship training.Lynher Training
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If you are looking for NPTC then all the local centres will be listed when you type in your postcode in the find a centre box here:
Or for Lantra, do the same here:
Level 2 Award in Felling and Processing Trees up to 380mm | Lantra Awards
For professional chainsaw operators working in forestry and arboriculture the industry recommendation is that for ’high...Sadly we are at the opposite end of the country but we do have availability in June!
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We have got two great apprenticeship opportunities coming up here on the Devon/Cornwall Border.
An Arborist apprenticeship based in Ivybridge, just outside of Plymouth, Devon.
2 x Arborist/Forestry apprenticeships near Callington, Cornwall (Arb or forestry depending on what is right for the learner)
If you are interested or know someone who is then do ask them to get in touch with us and we can let them know the details.
01822 832232
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If you want to get off the tools and into an office, and have a love for paperwork, this might be for you.
This role is key in the technical administration and support involving the work of the Arboriculture (Arb/tree) Inspection Team. You will be helping to shape future service delivery and processes by providing effective multi skilled resilience to the team.
You will help support the Arb (Tree) Officers administratively, building packages of work, assisting with detailed applications whilst working collaboratively with the arb service team and coordinator.
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Arb level 3 certification
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Hi @Woody24,
We are running the theory side of the City and Guilds Level 3 Forestry and Arboriculture in October 2024. Not sure where you are based but our courses run on the Devon/Cornwall Border. You could come along and, following successful submission of your coursework, achieve a City and Guilds Level 3 Certificate in Forestry and Arboriculture doing the following:
Unit 305 - Tree Identification and Planting - 14th-15th October
Unit 312 - Tree Pests and Diseases - 17th-18th October
Unit 314 - Tree Survey and Inspection - 29th-30th October
This training also provides a good base towards going on to achieve your Professional Tree Inspection.
The cost is £1350 (no vat)
Other units available are:
Unit 306 - Practical Tree Planting and Aftercare (pre-req unit305) - 16th October
Unit 309 - Woodland Management - 31st October - 1st November
Get in touch if you would be interested by email [email protected] or 01822 832232
Lynher Training