Bogoak

Lovely looking stuff.

Very sad to hear this.

Thank you, that’s certainly an interesting looking lump.?

About time someone posted some more pics on here! I’ll allow ye lazy buggers Christmas Day off, but come on, you must’ve chopped something up since the 17th!?

I’m most impressed!?

4 hours ago, openspaceman said:

My experience is quite out of date now but even then they were a bit of a kludge. At the time Hiab loaders from lorries were being adapted for more off road uses, one of the problems was that lorry loaders tended to work on the flat and so the slew function didn't need much force or pressure. Once you were working on sidling ground and were swinging a load slightly uphill the slew rams couldn't cope so intensifiers were used in the circuit. Later better solutions like tandem slew rams and levelling king posts on purpose built machines made the use obsolete.

 

They may still have a niche, I envisaged using one alongside a regenerative function  on a splitting ram where the only power was from a simple gear pump, this would allow three increasing forces as the ram encountered a tougher log to split. Plainly there are trade-offs and the obvious one is that the ram will work slower to gain the extra pressure, as Eddy says. So whilst one wouldn't buy a machine to run a high pressure ram than the hydraulics could supply if you already have the machine and want to use the high pressure cutter then it becomes possible. Of course the hydraulic components downstream of the intensifier need to be capable of resisting the higher pressure than the rest of the equipment has to.

 

 

You have to select an intensifier ram so that the ratio of piston area to rod side area is the inverse of the pressure available to the required pressure. In the case Eddy specified  the piston side to rod side ratio needs to be 250:190 and the stroke on the rod side has to deliver  enough oil to  fully operate the high pressure ram. The rod of the intensifier just moves in and out and is not attached to anything. In practice you will need a diverter to occasionally  reset the intensifier ram if there is any creep or oil loss

Ah, thanks. Simple enough........ in theory.

13 hours ago, LGP Eddie said:

Try a CAT 308 v JCB 85z

 

Remember an Intermercato Shear will require 250 Bar.

The problem is the solution or lack of.

 

 

Eddie.

Hmmm, Cat 308 producing 131lt @ 285 bar. Some serious oil movement there!

1 hour ago, openspaceman said:

Not a big problem if you fit an intensifier on that service then

Tell me about these “intensifiers” please?

On 11/11/2019 at 19:42, LGP Eddie said:

Sorry, I’d like to think I do my bit when it comes to sharing information.

 

This one is different, it’s a straightforward heads up for guys to do their homework if thinking of any of the JCB Midi range as a carrier for a Shear.

I really rate them, but checkout the brochures and you’ll soon find the issue.

A solution is another thing altogether!

 

 

Eddie.

Well I’ve had a look, and for instance, the JCB 67c delivers 90lt @ 190 bar. The Kubota 57 does 76lt @ 206 bar. I must be missing something because I can’t see why the JCB might be considered lacking.

5 hours ago, LGP Eddie said:

Sadly in this instance due yet again to Manufacturers simply not listening even when given as much help as possible, the only answer I’ll give is speak to a JCB Dealer or purchase/hire an alternative brand with suitable Auxiliary pressure.

 

 

Eddie.

Hmm, well, possibly enough said. I appreciate the sensitivity of the issue given that JCB is a home grown product. However, when they ignore customer feedback, I quickly run out of patience myself. The paint issue is a prime example of what really winds me up: absolutely unfit for purpose! It’s not that they can’t do it, because there was nothing wrong with the paint on older models: how dare they insult their customers, it’s  blatantly obvious that the paint is going to fail. You suggest they’ve made efforts to address this, and I hope you’re right.

Mind you, poor paint work certainly isn’t confined to JCB; Cat and Bobcat aren’t too clever, and Thwaites are appalling. I suspect Kubota is one of the best, and that’s reflected in residual values. There’s no better advert for machinery than  to see old examples still working and looking smart!

On 09/11/2019 at 14:01, LGP Eddie said:

After this weeks fun and games, all I will say to anyone considering a JCB Midi for Tree Shear or attachments, do your homework.

 

Solutions are available, but my suggestion is contact your JCB Dealer, explain what pressure you want from the auxiliary for your chosen attachment and await their response.

 

 

Eddie.

Never thought pressures might be an issue; I’m quite curious. What are the available remedies? Is it just a matter of adjusting factory settings, or does it mean upgraded components?

13 hours ago, Rough Hewn said:

Done this before, didn't go well.
Client was convinced the large rot pocket was a "feature" and therefore worth more
Also how many clients are prepared to wait 2 years plus to find out if it warps or splits?
There's so much that can go wrong with wood drying.
A timber merchant I know had some incredible 10'x2' burred oak. The 2" pieces were perfect, but the 30mm boards had up to 20mm warpage.
Only good for chopping boards.
Individual trees from gardens are generally stupidly overpriced compared with properly grown and harvested forest trees.
As I often explain:
Me: That's a lovely tree, I'll give you £50 for it.
Client: But it's worth a fortune?
Me: Yes, if you had 1,000 more I'd offer you a £50,000. But you have one.
Client: Oh.

Quality can be confirmed once sawn, I certainly wouldn’t expect anyone to have to wait till it’s dried. However, I take your point that judgment could be somewhat subjective. If the client values “rot pockets” though, you could suggest he keeps those bits, and you just pay for the good bits.?

live long and prosper?

Why not agree on a price subject to quality? So, if it turns out to be firewood then that’s what you pay for. Conversely, If it turns out to be sound and well figured, then you pay the premium. I wood see that as fair, if I was the seller: no one gets ripped off.

On 28/09/2019 at 09:40, LGP Eddie said:

Blatant advert, but might help someone out?

I’ve got to rig the Felling Head onto a 22 metre Long Reach for a project starting shortly.

If anyone has something they think this could be a solution for, shout up as if you can piggyback on you’ll save ££.

 

 

 

Eddie.

Do you have a camera on the end of that thing? Damn sure I’d need one!

On 10/08/2019 at 08:47, monkeybusiness said:

Look at the Takeuchi TB260 and Kubota 57 too - they are the best machines in that weight class imo.

I’m sure Eddie would be recommending the Kubota KX57-4.

I’ve just felled a young Poplar of about 14” diameter. The last couple of growth rings were about 1” wide: Quite impressive. 

Is the price right enough?

https://www.blacktrac-compact-tractors.co.uk/Store/Product.asp?id=1546&item=Multi+One+8.4S+4WD+Compact+Telehandler+Forklift+with+Pallet+Tines+%26+4%3A1+Bucket

1 minute ago, se7enthdevil said:

i think he had a coastal redwood which is Sequoia sempervirens.

Ah, the tallest species int world l believe.

On 27/07/2019 at 00:46, Erik said:

Too hot to climb today so I rolled a nice log in the mill and knocked out some lumber

 

 

What species is it please?

2 hours ago, woody paul said:

I run a Tobroco Giant 204 which is the smallest articulated loader they make, my brother has driver Avant and the Giant and says the giant is best on getting into tight place's. 

It also has no plastic panels. 

The tobroco range is vast for ones you stand on the back of to large telehandlers.

 

Thanks, I’ve had a look at the Giant website and they look to be a good machine.  I’m liking the look of the Norcar, having compared the main players, but have not seen one in the flesh. They all seem to have there strengths and weaknesses.

2 minutes ago, Jwoodgardenmaintenance said:

Just mentioned you in the main ones 

 

Jack 

Cheers?

1 minute ago, Jwoodgardenmaintenance said:

There is quite a few threads on here based on compact loaders just flick through the machinery forums and speak to @Blake@waveney about multi one then there's a few peeple wit avant giant ect ?

 

Jack 

Ah, thanks for that.

Really?, not a single one of you have one! Am I going to have to be the guinea pig??

Anyone have any experience and views on the merits of any particular brand?

 Thanks 

That’s a pretty special tree!