Garyjp

several popular misconceptions here.

 

 

 

It is entirely legal for anyone to buy a top-handled saw in this country, and for anyone to be sold a top-handled saw in this country, without any qualifications or evidence of such whatsoever. There is absolutely no offence committed and no recourse if it happens.

 

 

 

Hasaw and other laws only apply to the workplace, and only to the provision and use of equipment, and in fact even then do not mandate that the user of a top-handled saw has any certification whatsoever. The law does however require that employees who use equipment are properly trained and competent to use it, and in this respect a top-handled saw is no different from any other tool or equipment. The industry has elected for simplicity to create and adopt the guidline that this competence for a top-handled can most easily be demonstrated by holding cs39 or 46, but the law does not require it.

 

 

 

As an employer, i could let someone use a topper provided that i have adequate demonstrable means to show how it is that i know the user is competent. This is easiest by the cs39/46 route, but there may be other ways (such as evidence of 30-years accident free use, etc).

 

 

 

The dealer will have agreed with the supplier not to sell to non-certificated users, but this is a contractual matter between the dealer and the supplier and the only recourse would be for the supplier to stop supplying that dealer if he thought that unapproved sales were taking place (plus possibly other actions if provided for in the contract between dealer and supplier).

 

 

 

Remember also that all the hasaw laws apply only to the workplace. It is entirely legal for johnny homeowner to chop up firewood on the ground with his ebay-purchase topper, holding the wood in his left hand and the saw in his teeth if he so wishes.

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Didn't this come about because there was a regular occurence of accidents when folk were using a topper in the right hand and holding firewood in the left hand. Lots of damage to the back of left hands. This led to 2 things (?)-

Introduction of chainsaw gloves with that weird bit of protection only on the back of the left hand.

Followed by- Introduction of having to produce an NPTC cert to buy a top handled saw.

The introduction of saw protection to the left hand glove is back when there were no front hand guards/chainbrakes. Since there introduction there have been very few accidents to the left other than stupidity which you cant legislate against! Gloves with saw protection are now a waste of money imho.

The code of conduct was introduced by manufacturers as a conciliation to hse and other similar euro agencies who were all set to effectively ban the sale of them in europe.

I suspect it has had little affect on reducing injuries as top handle sales are only a small percentage of overall chainsaw sales even though the risk of injury is slightly higher with a TH saw than a back handle due to the increased difficulty in controlling kickback. the risk is in the nature of the operation itself, a novice user is almost as likely to injure themselves with a back handle saw as a top handle one in the same circumstance.

That said, it must surely be better for the industry overall to limit sales as much as possible to the professional!

not so long ago, clarkson would have been able to get away with it but since Jonathan ross, bbc have proved that they cannot accept this kind of bs. wossy is worming his way back to the beeb but his bbc tv career is finished. no single tv show is bigger than the bbc...TG could be the example that needs to be set (across all channels)

TG has had its day in the current format...they are struggling for content clearly. hammond and clarkson are has-beens. cant decide on may!

It's not really the calories but the things that are in the food, salt, preservatives etc, you may burn off the calories but it's the other stuff that's not good.

i was quite happy living in denial! you,re mean lol 😜

unfortunately i just about live in the place. not many days of the week im not at a mcds or kfc, if only for a coffee. but im not a lazy fecker, i work off the crappy calories!!

thanks for the heads up..defo now on my things to do list!

As an option try your local college, the students will often do these projects for peanuts as its good coursework. Can get some excellent results too of course.

Pubic drinking??

I hope thats a typo lol

Not sure what a 'random' orbit sander is. I do have a black and decker orbital sander though

b&d orbit sander...they are hopeless, you will just get millions of swirls. fine for knocking back a bit of polyfiller but useless on this. (less than useless really)

lol, i posted that one too a while back!

I thought it was " mustard " the first time I saw last year and possibly the second a few months ago and I got to be fair it still bloody good

lol, thats the trouble with viral vids...i knew there was a risk its already been seen about 5 million times 😝

This doesn't make sense to me. The saw still makes a noise whilst cutting but between cuts it is silent so a normal conversation is possible.

 

 

 

I worry that one can get blasé with it as it switches on as soon as the deadman handle is squeezed whereas the engine can be heard by the user with a conventional saw.

 

 

 

Anyway I had a young chap who had never used one before take down a 30ft sallow and adjacent 2 stemmed norway maple on Friday. Used one battery, spare was available.

 

 

 

The skip chain means it can cut to its 14 inch length but that takes the battery out too quickly so in this instance he dismantled to 5 inch cuts and then the stems were felled and ringed up with a conventional (Husky 254 as I couldn't get a new saw in time).

 

 

 

His boss was there and didn't want to try the battery saw, preferring the ms200t, but I don't believe the job would have been any quicker with the petrol saw and communication was much better.

the husky has an on/off switch. the saw turns off after 5 mins.

Hopefully the link works ok!

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I have several magazines from 1984 I found under my old bed, but for some reason I can't open them.

 

 

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tooo much information lol

I bought the 360tes back in November last year after 2 months the exhaust broke, iv been waiting since for a replacement, apparently they haven't got them in America or Japan.

demand a new saw/money back!

thats pants 👎👎👎👎

just ask your dealer for a loan for a few days of the models you want to test. only you can decide if its right for you and your operations.

What is the hot start mod, just out of interest. My 2 year old saw starts fine hot, but would be nice to know.

change to the breather system (old one vents into the air filter mount / manifold) and the air gap between the flywheel and coil was reduced to 0.2 from 0.3

if someone brought one out, the first comment will be, urghh thats heavy!! no thanks 👎

Because of the chain coming off and cutting through the stupidly thin and flimsy side of the oil tank, I might just have one which I would be delighted to drive over to show how strong the 201 is compared. I bet my mountain bike would smash a 540 to a bag of crushed wotsits!!

do a bag of wotsits at the same time for comparison!

sounds like a challenge lol. anyone got a scrap t540 to test 😜

+1 for walking dead. hadnt seen it advertised when it came out but watching on sky box sets, im hooked! never knew there were so many different ways to kill a zombie!!

I used to work with a girl who took a hedge cutter to the boob.

That's all I got.

Got a pic or two ?? purely for scientific reasons of course!

The places I've been will loan/rent all the PPE you need. If your budget is limited, spend your money on training and ear defenders first with remaining PPE a close second.

true, but its usually minging lol