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  1. Ive used both, 461 runs a longer bar better but does have the extra CCs also will be better built than the 462 but heavier. Stihl did go all out on the weight saving in the 462 to make it a lighter saw but with that comes problems,  the top cover is single piece and will break from a light strike also the rear handle/trigger area is fixed by a prong mechanism and has come apart in my hands lots which has lead to wear in the throttle assembly as its a series of rods and pivots rather than a cable.


    462 is a really good saw, Ive cut hardwood and softwood with for a year now and you just have to be a bit carefull with it whereas the 461 was a solid unit

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  2. Just now, Big J said:

    Every tree there is in range of the footpath. Most are directly above it. 25m trees on a 15-30m wide strip with the footpath in the middle. 


    Going to site first thing in the morning and the licence application will be in tomorrow afternoon :D


    I'll be intrigued to hear what the Euroforest consensus on is.

    So that would ideally be the whole lot going then!


    I spoke with them today and they said it was more a discussion with input from different contractors experiences dealing with harvesting of dead ash/chalara and butt rot trees

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  3. There is a euroforest meeting/discussion  next month regarding dealing with ash dieback trees should be interesting!! I would commission a tree safety survey, then take out all the trees within striking distance of the footpath if that is possible?? seems crazy that you have to have a licence for alive trees with signs of chalara, what did they say about half dead?? im guessing some will have but rot too? so i would go round with a hammer tapping trees whilst wearing a hard hat and marking the hollow ones then taking them out. we had perfectly health trees on one job but lots were hollow so were taken out,  public safety would be my main concern!

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  4. I have a 462 and its coming up to a year in June in the woods, i was asked recently by a dealer if i wanted a 500i? my response was for them to tally up how much the 462 has cost me in spares. I have had 2 chain brake handles, 3 shroud covers, rear handle cover and recently bent the front handle!! 


    If you want a 70+cc  saw that will last and is not made from cheap plastic and a front handle made from tin foil( it is ridiculously light/ thin) then try any other brand!!


  5. 21 minutes ago, ESS said:

    Sorry , no what I was trying to say was the machine will pull 150 comfortably as a skidder, but I couldn't comment on how efficient the crane would be with that weight.There were only trees up to 70 on this site.

    Lifting 150 tip first on longer trees would probably be ok, but butt first not so sure.

    I know exactly where you are coming from with the 2 machine operation,we used to fell a lot of Oak,and looked at all the options, in the end we just used a skidder and subbied the crown wood forwarding out, it worked for us and we weren't paying finance on a crane trailer or forwarder that was stood watching us whilst we felled/extracted butts.

    If I was to go down that route again I would probably use grapple/cable skidder and still subby the forwarding out. £6- 8 /t gets a lot of forwarding done. To buy a forwarder that you could afford to sit for these sites would be buying someone elses scrap and it just wouldn't stack up financially.

    the crane has always been the limiting factor, ive seen many a purpose built skidder haul wood out they just get the cable on, winch it tight then lift the butt plate and drive out which keeps one end out of the mess the same with a grapple skidder. The plus side being there is a winch on site to manipulate trees and pull yourself out the mess when the weather turns, cheers for the input

  6. 11 hours ago, ESS said:

    That particular machine would be skidding 150 + but not in one lump. A county with mounted igland 8000s would, then crane trailer to go on butt plate.I have run several, and they will handle 150 comfortably. Finding one would be a different matter.

    We ran cat 955 with fork on , had a big crane trailer built for that that would carry 300 cube., with 4 sets of bolsters on. Hyster winch on cat.

    The HSM was sold to Essex and replaced with new. They would let you have a look at it. That one had a head to go with it too.

    Grapple skidder with trailer was a shit suggestion, grapple would snag headboard etc.

    so your saying a hsm 805 wouldnt have the guts to pull 150 + cube timber? however i look at it its always a 2 machine operation but many wanting the timber carried out these days rather than skidding due to the mess made

  7. thanks for the response, yes basically using crane to lift butt end on to toothed butt plate and a winch cable wrapped round for safe measure then drive out, yes i mean shortwood 

    Ive seen a cat 525 grapple skid out timber but then a forwarder go in to collect the shortwood


    Ive looked at the specs on the crane types and not sure if some are up to task, just seeing if there is one piece of kit to do the job really

  8. Just got a protos, have used the husky helmets for years then got twatted by some blow back felling and thought i need to invest in my head as much as i do my feet and legs for protection.


    Good Boots and trousers are £150 + each so why save on protecting your brain as that's the most important part, just my thoughts

  9. 1 hour ago, spuddog0507 said:

    Well i just dont see the point of arguments like this, when 99% of the people stating what will cut what and what saw will be best when they have never seen one yet alone used one, i just see it as stihl and husky competing with each other, for me its the old school toys as the more technolagie that goes in to saws the more time they will spend in a workshop when they go wrong, i was thinking about a 462 but having second thoughts now after spending last thursday with a lad who has had one since last may, ok revs its nuts off cuts well but has blown the bottom end out all ready, 8 wk with out it and from what he said its a 362 bottom end and i allways under stood if you more power through something you should uprate some moving parts ?, i see trouble ahead captain, for me its 461 660 but i do have a old 460 that i used yesterday first time for a while and it seems to be better than the newish 461 i own,now weather the 460 has been played with i dont know but the 460 461 & 660 i can fix myself 462 ? and 500i i dont think so and it will be some time before the stihl mechanics get up to speed on repairing them, and its got a primmer bulb just like a ryobi or a bag of shit saw out of B&Q, thats going backwards to me and something else to go wrong, so to top it off i just dont see the point of buying the new modles till they have been out some time like 2 or 3 years but some lads will buy them as soon as they hit the dealers just to say they have one, and sorry but its these lads who are going to be saying either best saw i have ever had or biggest bag of shit i ever bought, lets see what happens,

    was it darren you were speaking to?? saws are going same way as cars, just glad i got hold of some new 3 series husqvarnas as i have a big box of spares so should keep me going till i cant cut no more

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  10. Okay, so i got to use a 572 the other day in some scabby horrible beech and oak around 20" which was the ideal test material for me!! it wasnt quite broken in yet but you could feel the power was always there when you needed it compared to the 462 which has a slight lull when introduced to some wood at full revs but carries on through- its kind of hard to explain!!

    Its well built and the rear handle didn't come apart in my hands!!  air filtration is miles better than the stihl, ive owned a 462 for 9 months now and you can notice the weight difference. Overall i think its a more all round saw compared to the 462 which has super fast pickup which is good for snedding but is more suited for softwood.

  11. okay, cutters must have a professional refresher in the last 3 years and also a first aid +f, this is mandatory on all fc sites i guess they have this also multiple windblow. Radio comms essential as im guessing its a remote location


    you need to think of basic scenarios with one tree or multiple trees like: one blown tree in one direction, windsnapped trees, hung up/part blown trees, trees under sever tension and the dreaded lots of trees all over in a mess. 


    this is all advice i can give as this is all i have encountered

  12. 23 hours ago, outinthewood said:

    I wouldn't say that ! but cut  a lot better than a stock 372 with the new AT it keeps the power on even in tough stuff. On the clutch cover if you did have a problem then a 365-372-390 cover fits just the same. 


    cheers dave, how do you find the air filtration? do you get many fines through in the carb elbow?


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