steve collins

On 03/04/2021 at 13:43, Ty Korrigan said:

These:

 

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I've never got on well with saw pants in temperatures over 18c until I tried these.

Huge rear zips and light fabrics.

I have just had a local seamstress make good some tears so they will see another season.

  Stuart

 

Good quality Made trousers, have had 2 pairs of the standard extreme

GB oil 80 dont need anything thicker

Has anyone moved from the uk to carry on in the forestry sector abroad at all? Currently looking for options and not having much luck finding opportunities. any pointer would be greatly appreciated.

id say the 462 ive put one through its paces and some since owning 2 1/2years . It drinks less than the 500i i feel, but it does feel plasticky and has some weak spots not to say that  the 572 does too.

If your happy double cutting with a 20" all day and then get a 462 but if you want to run a 24" more often then a 572 pulls that bar better imo

copford sawmill

On 15/01/2021 at 20:45, Big J said:

 

 

I have the offroad/grip control pack on the Berlingo, so a bit more ground cleareance than standard.

How are you finding this feature on the berlingo? as im due to change from a hilux soon, is it as good as they say?  cheers

Gremo/ ecolog?

10 hours ago, MattyF said:

I’ve never heard of any one having issues with the 500i ! only issue Or niggle I have is the air filter needs cleaning twice or at least once a day... I know guys who use them on big outside Sitka and will kill a saw a year but have not had an issue with the 500i and he said it was the first saw he’s owned that hasn’t needed a rebuild in 12 months!
Any ways 462 is a great saw , light, very responsive and handles nice in hand although the trigger and handle bother me as they feel like they may fall apart and some thing is not quite right there but 20” is what it feels best on to me and is a great saw.
572 is more of a 24”saw , definitely feels like it’s made to carry a 24” but is a heavier than the 462 and you can feel it in the handling.

Ive had dealings with stihl about the poor quality build of this part of the saw, this was replaced under warranty. apart from that its a cracking saw

19 hours ago, Dan Maynard said:

23 hours ago, steve collins said:

Ive used both over the last 2 or so years the 462 is a 20" bar saw IMHO and would recommend the 572 to running a 24" as its maximum. This is my findings with these saws 

I'm intrigued on your rating, what would you say for a 461? I think climbing a 461 takes 25" just fine but maybe a 20" would be more productive on the ground?

the 572 has a 5mm more stroke compared to the 462

The 461 is perfect on a 25" a 20" is fun to use!! it will cut faster but more cutters will come into contact with dirt etc if your not careful

kesla have released a new head 14rh designed for first thinnings and max 6ton excavator or the 16rh is for 6-10ton .

Ive used both over the last 2 or so years the 462 is a 20" bar saw IMHO and would recommend the 572 to running a 24" as its maximum. This is my findings with these saws 

57 minutes ago, Lfservices said:

Wants £9500 

it was up for £7500 few years back, dont know if it sold for even that. All i can tell is its had some paint 

23 hours ago, Ty Korrigan said:

Get a mate in Europe to buy you some of these:

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Sadly, do not send to U.K.

  I can vouch they are super light and über cool compared to any others on the market.

 Stuart

think you can still get them on german ebay and amazon although i heard were being discontinued

Ive used both, 461 runs a longer bar better but does have the extra CCs also will be better built than the 462 but heavier. Stihl did go all out on the weight saving in the 462 to make it a lighter saw but with that comes problems,  the top cover is single piece and will break from a light strike also the rear handle/trigger area is fixed by a prong mechanism and has come apart in my hands lots which has lead to wear in the throttle assembly as its a series of rods and pivots rather than a cable.

462 is a really good saw, Ive cut hardwood and softwood with for a year now and you just have to be a bit carefull with it whereas the 461 was a solid unit

I doubt you will find any fencing grade oak in kent/ sussex area as sandwich are hoovering it up at moment as the price is strong. If you do be prepared for a high price! 

Just now, Big J said:

Every tree there is in range of the footpath. Most are directly above it. 25m trees on a 15-30m wide strip with the footpath in the middle. 

 

Going to site first thing in the morning and the licence application will be in tomorrow afternoon

 

I'll be intrigued to hear what the Euroforest consensus on is.

So that would ideally be the whole lot going then!

I spoke with them today and they said it was more a discussion with input from different contractors experiences dealing with harvesting of dead ash/chalara and butt rot trees

There is a euroforest meeting/discussion  next month regarding dealing with ash dieback trees should be interesting!! I would commission a tree safety survey, then take out all the trees within striking distance of the footpath if that is possible?? seems crazy that you have to have a licence for alive trees with signs of chalara, what did they say about half dead?? im guessing some will have but rot too? so i would go round with a hammer tapping trees whilst wearing a hard hat and marking the hollow ones then taking them out. we had perfectly health trees on one job but lots were hollow so were taken out,  public safety would be my main concern!

I have a 462 and its coming up to a year in June in the woods, i was asked recently by a dealer if i wanted a 500i? my response was for them to tally up how much the 462 has cost me in spares. I have had 2 chain brake handles, 3 shroud covers, rear handle cover and recently bent the front handle!! 

If you want a 70+cc  saw that will last and is not made from cheap plastic and a front handle made from tin foil( it is ridiculously light/ thin) then try any other brand!!

I read somewhere few years back on their own website they pay £150( not sure if vat was included on top) for a experienced hand cutter, so up to medium tree and first aid, Problem is they moan like hell if you charge this even though the website states the above!!!

if it plays up again try the wiring harness from the coil to the carb

21 minutes ago, ESS said:

Sorry , no what I was trying to say was the machine will pull 150 comfortably as a skidder, but I couldn't comment on how efficient the crane would be with that weight.There were only trees up to 70 on this site.

Lifting 150 tip first on longer trees would probably be ok, but butt first not so sure.

I know exactly where you are coming from with the 2 machine operation,we used to fell a lot of Oak,and looked at all the options, in the end we just used a skidder and subbied the crown wood forwarding out, it worked for us and we weren't paying finance on a crane trailer or forwarder that was stood watching us whilst we felled/extracted butts.

If I was to go down that route again I would probably use grapple/cable skidder and still subby the forwarding out. £6- 8 /t gets a lot of forwarding done. To buy a forwarder that you could afford to sit for these sites would be buying someone elses scrap and it just wouldn't stack up financially.

the crane has always been the limiting factor, ive seen many a purpose built skidder haul wood out they just get the cable on, winch it tight then lift the butt plate and drive out which keeps one end out of the mess the same with a grapple skidder. The plus side being there is a winch on site to manipulate trees and pull yourself out the mess when the weather turns, cheers for the input

11 hours ago, ESS said:

That particular machine would be skidding 150 + but not in one lump. A county with mounted igland 8000s would, then crane trailer to go on butt plate.I have run several, and they will handle 150 comfortably. Finding one would be a different matter.

We ran cat 955 with fork on , had a big crane trailer built for that that would carry 300 cube., with 4 sets of bolsters on. Hyster winch on cat.

The HSM was sold to Essex and replaced with new. They would let you have a look at it. That one had a head to go with it too.

Grapple skidder with trailer was a shit suggestion, grapple would snag headboard etc.

so your saying a hsm 805 wouldnt have the guts to pull 150 + cube timber? however i look at it its always a 2 machine operation but many wanting the timber carried out these days rather than skidding due to the mess made

thanks for the response, yes basically using crane to lift butt end on to toothed butt plate and a winch cable wrapped round for safe measure then drive out, yes i mean shortwood 

Ive seen a cat 525 grapple skid out timber but then a forwarder go in to collect the shortwood

Ive looked at the specs on the crane types and not sure if some are up to task, just seeing if there is one piece of kit to do the job really

looking for opinions on machinery to extract 150 plus cube hardwoods? are the crane type skidders like hsm, noe, wf trac and  kotschenruther up to task ?? reason being you can haul out the tops after with a trailer attached or is it excavator and forwarder ?

any thoughts welcome

id say its the fuel solinoid playing up from talking to others with same symptoms, not sure of cost to replace though