Isaac
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Thanks guys, I appreciate your feedback. I'm going with 1.5 - 1.7m3 I think. Twistedhicap, I think your calculations must surely be out ? Those bulk bags are actually closer to 0.5m3 or maybe 0.6m3 if full to the max, but thanks for your thoughts anyway. So, baring in mind that most pick up loads of firewood advertising 2m3 are more often than not closer to 1.5m3 then a tonne of cord equates to one "load" of logs.
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Thank you very much for your replies. Chain size I dont know off hand but I shouldn't it'll drastically effect the calculation ? As for the length I'd say about 30cm. I'm surprised you think it could be as much as 3m3 because I'd have guessed more like 1.5 to 2 ? Cheers.
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Sorry in advance for this boring topic ! Does anybody know, in ball park figures... How many Cubic meters (m3) of split logs would one hope to make from 1 tonne of hardwood cord (6-12 months old so I'd guess 35-40%mc) Thanks.
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Love that Bullerjan, never seen one before. What an uncompromising stove that is !
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Do you have any of that macci left to sell ? If so how much and how much please. Cheers.
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Something to consider here would be the fact that even for a nominal fireplace opening of 500x550 you'd need permanent ventillation through exterior wall of about 200cm2 (pretty draughty)and the open fire, depending on the set up may only be 5-10% efficient at best ? Unless you're dead set on in it, I'd be inclined to go for woodburner that's designed to operate either open or closed instead ? That could make for smaller ventillation requirement and you can shut the doors when not in use ? Oh, and of course benefit from up 70% efficiency ?
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I've experimented a bit running an old Mitsubishi 1 tonne pick up on Bio. Worked fine, pulled like a train, started well. Got plenty of funny looks stood outside Lidls filling up with 1 litre plastic bottles of veg oil ! Now knowing plenty of people in Cornwall who use the stuff it seems important to find a good supply of clean fuel, a few companies have set up manufacturing and selling bio only to shut down soon after, having let too much mucky fuel through their pumps. The other thing is to invest in a pre heater, I think they're about £80, especially in the winter months, they thin the oil thus preventing the clogging problems. Good luck.
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Hi Isaac, thanks for the comments on the website. Barrow bags are from
BAG Supplies :: Packaging Suppliers covering the UK, Europe and North America
Good company to deal with and have a huge variety of bags and nets etc.
I tend to tip the bags out so can be re-used on a regular basis. Some people do ask if they can keep the logs in the bags but I try and put them off by telling them the logs will sweat and poss go mouldy. The vented ones are better for this but aren't as easy to handle. I have left bags once or twice and asked for a deposit of £10/bag. This more than covers the cost of a new bag but you have to buy a minimum of 50 at a time. I have 50 of each and keep them filled and stored in a poly tunnel ready for delivery. Hope that helps mate, Dave
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Thanks Davetaz and co for the continued feedback re pricing. Seems like the country has about the same prices on the whole ? Anywhere from 70-100 quid per m3 with well seasoned hardwood firmly at the £100 end ? I know a place locally selling for £135/m3 but not sure how much they sell ? It's premium quality firewood mind you. I hope you guys with the shooters and vat issues have sorted out your differences.
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Ha ! I have an 8kw Villager too, great woodburner. Sounds like you need to look at draught proofing and insulating your house, then getting your Larch drier and shutting the burner down some more ? Thanks for the feedback though.
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Thanks 33bk, that's £100 /m3 and thanks ThrustSSC too, all very encouraging. Loads and cubic meters are all well debated with buyers and sellers alike I recon. It's amazing how many rogues out there sell 1m3 of wood in a 1 tonne builders bag which is of course holds just over half a cubic meter in volume and also how many sell 2 cubic meters from the butt of a 4x4 pick up that measures at maybe 1.2 m3 ! Everyone has a calculator and can measure length x width x depth surely, it's not rocket science ? Price per meter cubic meter seems to be the best measure. And judging by the more recent posts to this thread it's looking like £100/m3 for premium firewood. Plain and simple. When all's said and done it's repeat orders that make for good business and those orders come from satisfied customers only ?
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If you're burning 3m3 a month you must have either a massive fire or burning very poor quallity wood ? I'd estimate 3m3 to be over 1000 average sized logs which means you'd be burning 33 a day ? That's a lot .
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1.33 a litre ! That's bonkers ! Thanks DN, Phatty, 18 stoner, Sandbach, Kev and Daren and others. Really useful feedback indeed and good to see some of you selling seasoned logs for decent prices. I think that firewood has for years been just a by product of Tree surgery sold primarily for a cosmetic fire to look cosy in otherwise centrally heated houses through the winter months. The heat not too important and a hissing log added to the ambiance, regardless of the fact it's probably 40% water ? But I'm sure as logs begin to be used more and more as primary heating so people will become far more discerning, arm themselves with moisture meters and appreciate the work involved from felling to delivery of a well presented load of properly seasoned hardwood and be happy to pay £100 m3 for it.
