cousin jack

They don't have to be heavys, but weight pulls weight. Also, the training of a logging horse takes considerable time to achieve, it is not simply a case of hitching a log and getting on with it.

I personally would think long and hard about what to do, I once sold a horse to a dealer, saw him again three months later and cried like a baby for an hour, I bought the horse back just to put him down, never again will I do that. Very often, horses that do not have a specific role/use in life just get passed from dealer to sale/dealer and end up having a pretty miserable existance.

I would have a horse put down, rather than just passing it on to absolve my guilt, (not saying that you are doing that), it's a hard decision but better than what could happen.

Don't think it was that they tried to control everything to soon, but more down to the point that they got no help when it was needed, 8 men could have caught the lead group, but not 4. As it was, Germany cut off their nose to spite their face.

Highlights of The Tour for me, Thomas Voekler, the speed as Wiggins launched Edvald Boassen Hagen off the final bend earlier in the week and that finish today, Mark Cavendish came from so far back, just amazing!

That's good to hear - haven't seen Dan for a year or so but last time I did he was looking forward to getting sorted with a horse.

He came down to Shropshire to help out with a job I was involved with, seemed like a good chap. Click on link to learn a little more about him.

http://www.britishhorseloggerscharitabletrust.org/pages/ds.htm

The chap I'm thinking of is called Dan Sumner. Why, is there something he should know about the horse?

Currently working in The Emerald Isle by the side of The River Liffey, Wednesday nights rain saw the river rise a metre, local farmers all moved sheep from the adjoining fields, river did'nt burst it's banks but was touch and go.

Bang tidy

Good stuff Ace, you get the job done!

Watched it on tv, GREAT.

Pageantry and tradition is something we are good at.

And is'nt our Queen some lady, 86, and stood all the way through.

Harry looked like he was gasping for a fag about half time though.

Went to "a farm" yesterday where there 1.5 million chickens apparently. Never saw a single chicken but saw a lot of eggs, drove under an overhead gantry, looked up saw a moving line about a metre wide, and it was taking eggs, thousands of them, from the sheds to the packing plant, impressive in it's scale and design, but not where I would want my eggs to come from.

Really one of my mates got cymag poisoning, i dont think he would agree, he was critical for a couple of weeks. Phostoxin is far far safer than cymag

I would say cymag was a better product because it could actually be blown into burrows, via a pipe, you could do all your sealing up before you started, there was also an antidote in the form of amyl nitrate, no such antidote for phosphine as far as I am aware, either way gassing is not very nice for man or beast, and is not something I would contemplate these days.

Out of curiosity I've looked up phostoxin on Wikipedia and followed one of the links in the text to phosphine, which is released when phostoxin comes into contact with moisture (e.g. in air or respiratory tract). I recommend the reading: I'd be wanting a full face mask.

 

Cousin Jack, the symptoms you suffered I think can be explained by the same text (re phosphine).

No doubt about it, I had a very lucky escape. As I said, I will never use it again. Cymag was a far better product to use, IMO

Hi all,

 

Not entirely sure if this is the right thread but hopefully some farmer types will ready this and help...

 

Got a long hedge of rabbits to gas - I am trained and certified and have bought Phostoxin and a Topex applicator ready to go...

 

Trouble is - I dont the course 3 years ago and am a bit rusty

 

Obviously its a no no in the rain, and always be upwind to the gas... but HSE publications say wear a ''full face gas mask''

 

Im sure on my course we just stood upwind and didnt do stupid stuff like eat it... is a mask really needed? or HSE covering their backs?

 

Look forward to replies.

 

Tom.

A few years back, I did a rabbit gassing job under some Rhodies, lots of crawling about on hands and knees, should of been wearing a full face mask, (which I had), but was'nt wearing. Took me all afternoon, finished went home, could'nt eat my tea, felt extremely nauseous, headache, went to bed at 7pm and slept the sleep of the dead. When telling this to someone else a few weeks later he told me a story of someone who had done exactly the same sort of thing, but he never woke up. I have never used phostoxin since and never will. Your call, but you cannot be to careful with the stuff.

Yep, very good, thanks for posting.

The trick to keep the decoy bird alive is feed them on a complete dog biscuit just the cheap stuff, I buy the rabbit water/feed bowls made of china because there too heavy for the crow to tip over, then I put a handful of dog biscuits in then pour water in with them this makes them softer for the crow/magpie you must also have a separate water container for fresh water!! Once I've caught my decoys they stay alive until I've finished with them, i might lose the odd one in 4 months due to the rain and the cold but thats it!The dog food has everything the birds need to keep them healthy.i also have another tip regarding the trip sticks for the trap I'll get a photo tomorrow if anyone's interested.

Yes please,

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Yep, drove one for years, that's why I turned to horses.

I went for a quiet walk this evening to the NNR at the back of my house (It's about 2500 acres of peat bog and scrub). The site has a strict no fires and no smoking policy due to how peat can burn for weeks underground and needing to be watched 24/7 if it ever catches.

Anyway I came across an area that had been clear felled of the birch,alder and willow in the past couple of years. It looks like on Friday they had a team in stacking the brash with a medium sized tracked digger and burning it! That sounds bad enough but noticed two of the fires sites were still smouldering away, one had gone down into the peat by a foot or so and the other was starting to smoke quite alot when a breeze got up. To make it even worse about 6ft away from one of the fires was a bucket with a couple of litres of what looked like sump oil and red diesel mixed then found a full 20 litre drum marked as red diesel!

I think the guys responsible need a right good kick up the backside!

Some people really have their brains up their backside, hope the people responsible are hauled over the coals, the people who gave them the contract should be held to account as well.

Yep, stove still burning here. Burning all that wood that's no good apparently, pop = toasty.

Opinels are a great little knife for the money, but the serious flaw with them is, when it gets soaking wet, the wood swells, jams the blade, and you can't bleddy open it when you need it.

Benbow Bros would do it.

Really enjoyed the video. I would love to research logging with horses further just for fun. Can you point me in the right direction and the correct terms so researching will be easier if its not to much bother.

 

Arboriculture is so vast and i love it

 

Thanks alot

 

Arran Turner

Arran, just do a google and you tube search for horse logging and/or logging with horses, should give you a good start. Far more extensive in North America and Europe than over here.

Glad to hear it!

"She", is the great British public, they always know best.

Spent a year in Canada in the 90's, loved the hockey, national obsession over there, every Saturday night, Hockey Night in Canada with Don Cherry. They'd show all the best hit's and fights from the previous week,

Oh, and a Bud's fan here.