<off topic, relates to Operators Licence Exemptions not Red>
http://www.transportoffice.gov.uk/crt/taxiproviders/taxioperatorlicensing/vehiclesoutsideoperatorlicencerequirements.htm
What do youlot think of this, especially this paragraph on dual purpose vehicles:
"Dual purpose vehicles (eg Land Rovers) & their trailers. Includes Range Rovers, Jeeps, certain Japanese vehicles and those designed to go over rough ground as well as on roads. NOTE: All dual purpose vehicles must not exceed 2040 kg in unladen weight."
Note! unladen not gross weight.....
and:
"*It is also worth knowing that, when towing a trailer behind a vehicle that is around - or slightly below - 3.5 tonnes gross plated weight (e.g Ford Transit/Mercedes Sprinter sized vehicles), if the combined gross plated weights of drawing vehicle and trailer do not exceed 3.5 tonnes or (where there is no gross plated weight) the total unladen weights do not exceed 1,525 kgs, an operators licence will not be required. Please note that any trailer with an unladen weight of less than 1,020 KGs, need not be taken in to account in this calculation."
and:
" * “A vehicle fitted with a machine, appliance, apparatus or other contrivance which is a permanent or essentially permanent fixture, provided that the only goods carried on the vehicle are:
(a) required for use in connection with the machine, appliance, apparatus or contrivance or the running of the vehicle;”
(b) to be mixed by the machine, appliance, apparatus or contrivance with other goods not carried on the vehicle on a road in order to thrash, grade, clean or chemically treat grain;
© to be mixed by the machine, appliance, apparatus or contrivance with other goods not carried on the vehicle in order to make fodder for animals; or mud or other matter swept up from the surface of a road by the use of the machine, appliance, apparatus or other contrivance”.
PLEASE NOTE: The “fixed equipment” exemption relates to vehicles that have equipment that is a permanent or essentially permanent fixture (e.g. a winch or generator) where any other goods carried must be strictly for use in connection with that fixed equipment (e.g. essential tools or equipment, without which that fixture would be unable to function). IMPORTANT: Under current legislation mobile exhibition vehicles, catering vehicles, vehicles with an auger fitted for laying telegraph poles (where the poles are carried on the vehicle), mobile shops and mobile medical screening vehicles are NOT exempt from operator licensing (if they are over 3.5 tonnes gross plated weight), nor are vehicles that do have fixed equipment - but carry goods or burden that is not strictly for use in connection with that equipment, or tow a trailer that is carrying goods or burden. Examples of types of vehicles that may be exempt under the above are *gully sucking vehicles, vehicles with water jetting / shot blasting equipment, cherry pickers (these may also be classed as “tower wagons” (see below)) and road sweepers."
This last one is interesting, I talked to an old boy about Matadors, Unipowers etc (old timber 'tractors'/ winch trucks) and he reckoned that any load HAD to be carried on the trailer, putting anything other than the winch cables, chains, c hooks etc on the back of the Matador would have got you nicked. I have actually heard someone say the same about Mogs- as a tractor they shouldn't carry load, only ballast or essential working equipment.
I think the reason that many of the machines mentioned above are allowed to run red diesel (as well as O licence exemption) is that technically they should be physically unable to carry or draw goods for haulage and hire/reward.