madmatt

Another option would be to have a beaver tail landy and put your chipper on the back or have a chipper mounted to a 90! you'll never carry as muh in 3.5ton gross vehicle as you will in your tipping trailer.

at the moment I tow chip in a trailer behind my 90 due to its 3.5 tonn weight limit, however this presents the problem of having to take another landy towing a chipper. more fuel cost etc!! for a while i've been thinking of getting a landy tipper, but my dad is adiment they can't actually carry much weight does anyone know the right figure that they can leagaly carry obvs i'm aware that they can carry much more than vosa want and that the carrying weight will varry on the body weight but a figure would be good non the less??

 

Thanks

Ollie

If you go down the Landy tipper route look for a heavy duty 110 thats probably ex utility as they have the same gross weight of a 130 at 3500kgs, a standard 110 only grosses 3050kg.

Once you have found a base vehicle get ally body made up and keep any tool box/chip box a sensible size my 130 isn't a tipper but has a tool box with lots of kit in it but can carry 1000kg so if you build a light body and small tool box you could probably get 1300-1400kg on board

Not only lay it out the way it comes apart also make sure u note which way round the seals were. some are obvious some less so.

As others have said keep it spotlessly clean, if the ram cylinder is painted or dirty check n double check there isn't a grub screw through the cylinder into the gland end, the times I have seen people force a gland end out to knacker the threads cos a grub screw has been present.

to remove the nut that holds the piston on the rod i put a piece of round bar in the vice and put the rod's eye over it making sure there is a rag to stop any chrome touching the vice.

there really isn't any more to it than that.

I had heard that the axle casing had to be spread, and was told that diff replacement/rebuild in a salisbury isn't that hard its just not for the faint hearted. I edited my post as you were far more knowledgeable.

mine leaked oil and all i did was replace the drive flange and seal with genuine parts cost about 50 quid and blew the breather out with airline. I agree with what you say unless a disc conversion is gained as well buying a salisbury axle is money most probably wasted!

Its more likely to be the drive flange thats worn, LR do a replacement and a seal, or you can speedy sleeve the shaft on your old flange.

I have had the Jap stuff and two Landys.

I ended up with a Land rover as about 10yrs ago I wanted a pickup that could legally tow 3500kgs, the Jap stuff didn't do it and landcruisers and fourtracks are non existent in pickup form. (yes i know there is the odd one about)

I know own my own 130 and drive a 110 everyday at work, my 130 is pretty well behaved as Chris say's regular oil changes are good, I service every 6months regardless of milage, preventative maintenance is better than expensive repairs.

I find that most people who moan about LR's drive them on a work fleet, and yep ours at work suffer their fair share of breakdowns but they have a different driver every day, are flogged to death on the way home at night, the animals pull off in high box up death valley with a 3ton pump on the back etc etc but at the end of the day they are bought because there isn't another vehicle made that ticks the boxes that land rover defender does.

Tow's well

Very easy body modifications

PTO capability off the transfer box

At the end of the day I see a land rover as any other piece of kit/plant abuse it expect the bills look after it and it'll serve you well

 

 

LA work (not roadside)...???

 

Whats your interpretation?

 

from someone that works for an LA I can tell you we have to run our tractors on white.

I get paid by the hour and have to drive our tractor miles n miles to jobs, I'll pull over at any given oppertunity to let stuff past, I will make extra effort to pull in to let HGV's past if its not as safe for them to overtake as cars.

The ones that really really hack me off though are the artic drivers who when they do overtake even on dual carriageways they cut back in so sharp they practically take the loader off the front!

A Defender 130 I had in the early '90s had a capstan winch at the front which was driven off of the dog drive on the crankshaft gland nut. I rebuilt the engine after a gudgeon pin incident one year but from then one, the gland nut would occasionally come loose which worried me a tad - the thought of the lads miles from home and the pulley coming off was not one I enjoyed. So I took it to an ag engineer mate and said "Can you get your lad to put a spot of weld on it to stop it coming orf" He did that alright - he seamed three faces of the nut! That was never coming apart again! Pity the next owner trying to rebuild that motor!

 

Now that is a proper bodge!

Pete,

I don't belive you ever for one minute you really expected a spot of weld from that pair!

Matt

The general election had a turn out of about 60%, so it hardly comparable

I'll try and remember to bring the letter home from work, but there was some ploitical spin to turn out for the election! you know what these people are like they won't let the truth stand in the way of telling you bwhat they want you to hear!

I registered mine to, not that I agree with it but they justify the low turn out of voters by comparing it to the general election!

Not sure I believe that

Niether did I until I did part 1 of my Driver CPC and the instructor told us about it. and then a different instructor mentioned it on part 2 The ones we were told about were on the M6 and could measure axle weights on all 6 axles of an artic as they pass over.

I looked at the Atlas then saw the Brian James Range with it's three ton carrying capacity. Tows great with five cubes on the back, mesh sides, electric tipping six wheels and all Ali sides. Not cheap but well worth it

can you post a model number or something pleae? I'd be very interested in a tipping trailer that'll legally carry 3tons thats electric tipping triple axle and have an unladen weight of 500kg.

Mine was no worse in fact it was slightly better than my 90!

Ben,

I have had both, and you know I am biased towards to green oval however!

I'd find as later and tidy fourtrak as you can, then I'd get it serviced and get the think bathed in waxoil or another chasis/body treatment.

both vehicles will tow the 3500kg trailer legally if needed but the fourtrak will be that bit more car like when you are nipping round quoting etc. they are a very capable off roader but not as good as the 90.

don't expect the 90 to be as comfortable on the road as the 130 the shorter wheelbase finds every hump,lump,bump in the road and the ride comfort won't be as good as the longer wheel base vehicles.

So there you go a Landy man telling you to by a fourtrak!

ey Charlie, we put bio hydraulic oil in chippers that go to the EA. It costs about 6 times the rate for ordinary stuff and lasts no time at all. One EA depot said when I delivered the last lot, "Useless stuff, we will have that out next week, it degrades too fast and completely screws the whole system and you then have to replace every component from the pump, hoses, filter housing and motors!" One mechanic said that there was no point in having bio hydraulic oil if you are using chemical anti-freeze, ordinary engine oil and ordinary diesel as they have every chance of being spilled too. He actually went on to say that if the machine is left idle for too long, the oil degrades faster!

I agree with this our machine driver has been on an EA owned 360 that the manufacturer assured the EA could cope with bio oil, the driver and the fitters disagree completely the downtime is incredible. Some hire firms refuse to hire to the EA as all machines need to have bio oil and some firms consider the risk to much.

This has been the case for many years with NFU I had a similar problem with my compact when I had it! however at the time the difference between ag n commercial was about 75 quid not 700!!:thumbdown:

looks very very good Ben will keep an eye out for it!

Have the Insurers said its a write off? If not you may be jumping to conclusions, as I rolled my 90 many years ago and even with a twisted bulkhead the NFU assessor was still keen to get it repaired, only once we established the front axle was knacked to was it written off. If your truck is just glass and internal damage they may well repair it.

Hey Matt, I love the Rodeo but I shoved 60k GBP through that in the 5 plus years and hardly towed more than 1500kgs so why have it when the restricter is in the cab applies for less than a QuadChip? I don't want to pay the "Perk" tax but then I don't want to be restricted or have a high fuel bill either. Rock and hard place springs to mind!

that makes a lot of sense Pete, so well we still be able to recognise you driving around in a Hyundai?

You assumed correctly

 

 

 

 

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Thanks Peter for some reason Pete's reply didn't load up on bottom of first page when i read it!

Yes Steve but my point is to tow commercially or for hire n reward a tachograph has been needed in the towing vehicle since 1997! I realise it adds a thousand quid to the price but I assume Petes old rodeo has a tacho and just wondered what had changed to put Pete off a new rodeo with tacho as digi tacho kits are readily avliable for the rodeo and if your used to tachos a change to digi aint that bigger deal.

Pete,

whats the Tacho issues in having a new rodeo? A tacho for business towing has been required since 1997 so if yours is only 5 years old whats the issue? (sorry I am just being nosey!)

Matt

Please do, Its going to be a couple of weeks before I have the funds in place to order but your reasoning is very similar to mine, cost of steel, hoses, and ram etc theese do seem well built.

Hi Chris,

Yep I agree, but a tad agricultural may not be a bad thing! it looks quite reasonable for the money.

Matt