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Mid Line Knots With Ring, Alpine Butterfly or Double Fig 8


R Mac
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From normal alpine.... Put the bight back on itself through the 'hole' it came through, then up/out and over the ring/now doubled bight. It should then look like a doubled up alpine ie more or less following the same knot lines.

Watch the Adam Bourne vid 10 more times :-)

 

Ok got it, yeah I'd need to slow Adam's video down (quite) a bit :biggrin:

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I can never rely on the 3 wraps method to be right. Try the one shown on this video, it's less prone (for me) to go wrong but for you you'll see you can pull the bioght out as long as you want before tucking and setting the knot.

 

There's an even easier way to tie it, but it's not so good with mits on.

 

You can cow hitch the ring to the bight, no need to passs the bight back through the knot. Or use a steel screwgate through the bight.

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If your rope is a bit stiff, just choking the ring on the bight can be at risk of it popping back over the ring and up against the working line....adding friction on retrieval. Great for a base anchor though.

And a steel carabiner has a gate, if you are suggesting a straight swap for the ring, I'd have to say it's a bad idea.

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