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So far, you win!

 

 

I'll hold my hands up that it's a bit of a hollow victory :blushing:

 

 

 

After much trawling of the t'interweb the digitised book can be downloaded from Google Books -

 

https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=UaMyAAAAIAAJ&printsec=frontcover&dq=rights+and+liabilities+as+to+trees+and+woods&hl=en&sa=X&ei=BIxxVYTTJ4mqUfKXgbAG&ved=0CCkQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q&f=false

 

 

My favourite section is Chapter 21, which contains ye olde worlde precursor to the TPO regs.....

 

"

Chapter XXI

 

Protection to Trees, etc., by Criminal Law.

 

By the Criminal Law Consolidation Statute of 1861, c. 96, relating to larceny and other similar offences, after providing that all larcenies shall be of the same nature, it is provided s. 32 et seq., that any person who shall steal, or cut, break, root up, or otherwise destroy or damage with intent to steal, the whole or any part of any tree, sapling, or shrub, or any underwood, respectively growing in any park, pleasure ground, garden, orchard, or avenue, or in any ground adjoining or belonging to any dwelling house, shall, if the value of the article or articles stolen, or injury done, exceeds one pound, be guilty of felony, and punished as in the case of simple larceny.

 

The same result is to attend a similar offence, elsewhere than in the situations thus described, if the value exceed 5l. Similar stealing or injury, in any place whatever, if to the amount of one shilling, may be made the subject of conviction by one Justice of the Peace, and of a fine of 5l. besides the value; and for a second offence, a person may be convicted in like manner, and imprisoned, with hard labour, for twelve months; and a third offence is to be deemed felony, and punished as simple larceny: a provision is also made for persons stealing live or dead fences, and if the whole or any part of a tree, sapling, or shrub, or any underwood, or any part of a live or dead fence, being of the value of one shilling at least, shall be found in the possession or on the premises of any person, with his knowledge, and he cannot satisfy a Justice before whom he is taken or summoned, that he lawfully came by it, he may be fined two pounds besides the value.

 

The same Act declares the punishment of simple larceny to be (unless otherwise specially provided for) penal servitude for three years, or imprisonment for two years, with or without hard labour, and with or without solitary confinement; and if a male under the age of sixteen years, with or without whipping.

 

By the statute, c. 97, of the same year, 1861, relating to malicious injuries to property, provisions are made, s. 20, et seq., for punishment of persons maliciously injuring trees, shrubs, &c., very similar to those provided by the statute, c. 96., with respect to stealing, or cutting, or rooting up with intent to steal; but the malicious injury, if of the value of one shilling, may, in the first instance, be punished at the discretion of a justice, either by a fine (as in the case of stealing), or by imprisonment for three months, with or without hard labour; and the punishment for a third offence, if the value of one shilling, is to be the same as in the case of stealing, except penal servitude. There is also a provision for malicious injury to fences."

 

 

 

Loving that males under the age of 16 could be whipped for breaching a "tpo"!

 

They don't make them like they used to. :thumbup:

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Picked up Armillaria Root Rot: Biology and Control of Honey Fungus yesterday. VERY GOOD. If anyone likes this sort of detailed analysis of a particular fungal pathogen, get this book.

 

Been looking for that for a while as it's on my reading list. I'm still searching for Schwarzes 'Diagnosis and prognosis' at under £200:sneaky2:

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Free!?

 

I quit. :D

 

I downloaded it today for free. But that's not, surely, the subject of this thread? A book is a tangible thing, pre-loved, with history and significance, occasionally with that old book smell and the excitement of peeling apart slightly wrinkled pages and re-discovering lost lore. And having, as happened to me recently, a pressed needle fall out of the Dallimore book that had been there for perhaps 50 years, somebody's long forgotten exciting discovery and souvenir. Or, just the appreciation of our predecessors' clear crisp (if a little flowery at times) written word. All that lovely stuff that has come from stepping out of the hustle and bustle of the commercially-driven myopia of the day in to a sedate chamber somewhere for a while to say it like it really is.

 

A good book is a good book. A bargain is a bargain. And trees are the bees-knees. Put 'em all together and ... Gola!

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Absolutely agree! Nothing beats a good book, used or new. Older books I adore picking up for good value, particularly.

 

I despise PDFs. I even ordered Common Sense Risk Management of Trees in paperback just so I can actually read it without feeling like my retinas are being gouged out by an intense and everlasting white light.

 

Anyway...

 

thank you based f.lux.

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I got Schwarze's book from the AA for £140 approx. Think they still stock it.

 

Doh!!

 

Page 1, 1st book. How have I missed that:confused1:

 

Now, I just need to explain to the wife that I 'need' this book, after I explained last week why I 'needed' to go to to Warwick for the AA Conference, including the field trip:biggrin:

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Doh!!

 

Page 1, 1st book. How have I missed that:confused1:

 

Now, I just need to explain to the wife that I 'need' this book, after I explained last week why I 'needed' to go to to Warwick for the AA Conference, including the field trip:biggrin:

 

Hahaha it happens to us all.

 

It's a good book. Bleedin' massive, and very detailed. Some of it way above my expertise right now, I must admit. Essential material, nonetheless.

 

Off to the Ancient Tree Forum's ancient tree guide at Bushy Park, London tomorrow. The AA conference is too far out for me, unfortunately.

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