Newbie help

[Oli Explosion]

Hello all!

Im new to all this climbing stuff and am about to arrange my cs38/39.

I love climbing trees anyways, so thought I might aswell get some gear, seeing as I'll be using it after the assessments.

What I im a little clouded on is, Fliplines and what they should be constructed of.

I was looking at the new CELanyard from Teufelberger, but also at the normal wire-core and prusik ones. (come to think of it, it's called a CELanyard, does that make it something else for a different more specified job?)

 

Basically, should your flipline/lanyard/strop have a wire core, or is it perfectly fine to use rope?

I fear I may have dived myself straight into all these techinical terms (after reading nothing but climbing stuff and knots for the past few days) and am still muddled to their actual meanings! Any help greatly appreciated.

[Matthew Storrs]

Wire cored fliplines are generally used when you choging down a stem on spikes and you tend to be cutting closer then normally, for your cs38/39 you will be required to have a wire cored flipline for pole rescue or using a saw to section down a stem, However for general climbing, reductions etc, I (and i think most) use normal rope as a secondary positioning strop as you should always be tied in at two points whilst cutting, the work position strop serves this purpose.

Even if you are not using a saw in a tree you will generally need a strop (5m of climbing type rope and a prussik will do fine) to help you reach awkward areas and for when you need to change over your mainline anchor point. If your after a budget steel flipline a 'swedish strop' is your best bet and is fine for spiking up stems etc, although they are rather clumsy for general work positioning aroung the canopy.

Having said this I believe on your course they will teach you to use both ends of your rope to enable you to switch anchor points as you climb the tree, A 5m strop is still very useful though.

Hope this helps.

[Marc]

Hello all!

Im new to all this climbing stuff and am about to arrange my cs38/39.

I love climbing trees anyways, so thought I might aswell get some gear, seeing as I'll be using it after the assessments.

What I im a little clouded on is, Fliplines and what they should be constructed of.

I was looking at the new CELanyard from Teufelberger, but also at the normal wire-core and prusik ones. (come to think of it, it's called a CELanyard, does that make it something else for a different more specified job?)

 

Basically, should your flipline/lanyard/strop have a wire core, or is it perfectly fine to use rope?

I fear I may have dived myself straight into all these techinical terms (after reading nothing but climbing stuff and knots for the past few days) and am still muddled to their actual meanings! Any help greatly appreciated.

 

You will be using a rope lanyard the majority of the time, wire cores are good for spiking poles as they flick up easier and have the "added" safety of a steel core as you will be doing cuts close to your line in this situation, steel core fliplines are not cut proof but may take a little longer to cut through along with the fact you should feel the saw hit the wire inner be warned it is very possible to cut through a steel strop so close attention at all times!

 

CE lanyards are great but pricey, if you can afford it I think they are a great bit of kit.

 

To make your own just buy 4+ meters of some nice 11mm line, 2 3-way karabiners I like oval style biners personally, a small prussik pulley and you will need just over 1m of friction cord to make a hitch so buy at least 3m this will make 2 friction hitches. There is a knot guide section here go for something like a VT or Knute, been a while since I looked at prices but should be cheaper and leave you some cash for other bits.

[Oli Explosion]

Thanks for the help guys, cleared up several questions there! I think I shall be climbing every tree in the garden this weekend. Sad, maybe, ridiculous, perhaps. Im sure you guys have done this.

Thanks again.