as anybody used these on a quad???

[renewablejohn]

Have you ever wandered why tractors shifted from steel wheels with tall grousers to pneumatic tyres with more but shorter grousers?

 

Wile you may think it was so they could be used on the road which was a benefit, it however was actually because pneumatic tyres in a field would produce more pulling power and save fuel as the tyre can conform to the undulation of the ground and offers a larger footprint.

 

 

Absolute tosh. My father had a set of corkett steel wheels and made a fortune ploughing in winter when ordinary tractors on rubbers would just spin there wheels. The only problem with them was the tendency to break half shafts as the drive train could not cope with the grip provided.

[offgridchris]

i think the talon a pneumatic.

 

just because we use the latest version of something doesnt make it the best. the marketing men make sure we just keep buying no matter what it is.

[b101uk]

Absolute tosh. My father had a set of corkett steel wheels and made a fortune ploughing in winter when ordinary tractors on rubbers would just spin there wheels. The only problem with them was the tendency to break half shafts as the drive train could not cope with the grip provided.

 

The history of the pneumatic tyre in agriculture along with the downfall of the steel wheel with grousers is well documented in history along with all the historic manufacture info and comparisons of fuel use and work done for the same tractors running on both types of wheel system.

 

The footprint of a pneumatic tyre is always much bigger than the same diameter/width steel wheel so the former sinks less so offers less resistance and can also travel at a faster speed in field wile staying in contact with the ground, also there are another 9 moths in the year besides winter when cultivations and other operations etc take place ware sinking or compaction or wheel damage to seed beds is undesirable, as tractors got more powerful it was found that travailing faster in the field was not only obviously quicker but also helped some implements do a better job of cultivation etc as soil got thrown around more.

 

So as I was implying given a 12 month year that a near ridged wheel with grousers is of very limited use for most of the year, so with respect to the OP’s question his $950 + P&P would be better spent on aggressive tread rubber tyres that can be used all year or as suggested by other some duels which also help with stability on side slopes.

 

However that said if the OP is towing a trailer around on hills then really whatever he try’s is really going to be limited by the weight of the quad + rider vs. the weight of the loaded trailer weight vs. the angle of the hill and gravity @ 9.81m/sec trying to pull the whole lot down the hill, given for every 1deg of slope 1.111111R% of the trailers weight (and the quad + rider weight) will be trying to pull the whole lot down the hill, so given the weight of the quad & rider is quite fixed and its factor of adhesion (the conversion of that weight into tractive force) will be considerably less than that weight value so any gain from aggressive better tyres or duals is only rely going to equate to getting up hills a couple of degrees steeper than before when in fact there would be more to gain by using a smaller/lighter loaded trailer.

Edited March 31, 2011 by b101uk

[offgridchris]

wow,

 

i think i understood some of that and thats why im looking to find a veichle which carries the load over the wheels to maintain traction. therfore using gravity to increase traction. i just haven't got £10,000 to spend on an iron horse or time for a real horse. and i have an old quad which i want to try and improve.

[renewablejohn]

Have you ever wandered why tractors shifted from steel wheels with tall grousers to pneumatic tyres with more but shorter grousers?

 

Wile you may think it was so they could be used on the road which was a benefit, it however was actually because pneumatic tyres in a field would produce more pulling power and save fuel as the tyre can conform to the undulation of the ground and offers a larger footprint.

 

 

b101uk

 

I am only disagreeing with the above statement in a woodland situation steel wheels would be useless due to the damage the wheels would do to tree root systems. The reason why steel wheels had more grip is the wedge shaped spuds would dig 4 inches into the soil rather than spinning on the surface. The main competition in the wet conditions would be a crawler but it could only travel half the speed of tractor on steel wheels.

[blazer]

I have a Suzuki Eiger + ride other quads all used on a large shoot over all types of conditions.

 

1st prob most quads have no rear diff - so steering will be a problem.

 

2nd big tracks would be useless on hard packed but greasie ground as they wont grip with there lower traction pressure.

 

sand, snow and some bogs may be ok for large traction but as all types of 4x4's have there limits so do quads.

 

I fitted a spare set of snow chains to the back of my quad in the snow last winter - bit big, but ok for a test. Worked well but no real advantage in powder but I'm sure they would work well in hard packed snow as they did with my L200 in mud, snow, ice. The big advantage with snow chains is they don't clog up and can be carried on the back and fitted in 10 mins - try 'Brindley chains' very helpful company - w/site crashed last winter with demand

 

but this is the UK with it's limited winters not north america

[corylus]

Although not in any manufacturers handbook, increasing the weight forward of the front wheels on a quad helps a lot with traction in mud and with uphill stability. I found this by accident when I 'hooked' a rack I had made on the tubular steel front guard on my Grizzly 600. It is designed to carry 100-150 tree stakes. As I wanted to keep it safe the rack carries them about 18" to 2' of the ground. Low centre of gravity and a massive increase in traction and feeling of security!

Cheap, useful and easy to do too.