Mr tree

[mrtree]

"one thing for sure is that trees die when smothered in mosses, and trees suffer in pots when the soil surface has become moss bryophyte dominated"

 

Again I find this hard to believe. IF you look at work done on Redwoods there seems to be more biomass (mosses etc.) on the branches than in the tree. These are trees that last hundreds, if not thousands of years. Is it the mosses that cause there death or a multitude of reasons.

 

Nursery pots are often covered in mosses and a liverwort called Marchantia polymorpha. These are not instantanous invasions and a lot happens to plants, perhaps too much water, nitrogen and too little oxygen and root space. Again are bryophytes the cause of the suffering, a contributing factor or just an innocent bystander?

[Tony Croft aka hamadryad]

"one thing for sure is that trees die when smothered in mosses, and trees suffer in pots when the soil surface has become moss bryophyte dominated"

 

Again I find this hard to believe. IF you look at work done on Redwoods there seems to be more biomass (mosses etc.) on the branches than in the tree. These are trees that last hundreds, if not thousands of years. Is it the mosses that cause there death or a multitude of reasons.

 

Nursery pots are often covered in mosses and a liverwort called Marchantia polymorpha. These are not instantanous invasions and a lot happens to plants, perhaps too much water, nitrogen and too little oxygen and root space. Again are bryophytes the cause of the suffering, a contributing factor or just an innocent bystander?

 

its clear im not explaining my point very well, i shall go away and look for some more indepth proof that mosses and bryophytes lead to a "switch" in soil chemistry. and part of this equation is the lock up of phosphorous in an increasingly fungi rich environment.

 

also we have to talk about forests life span, 6-9000 years approx depending on tropical or temperate.

 

shall come back to this later:001_cool:

[Tony Croft aka hamadryad]

http://www.ippswr.org/home/ippsna/2005/Presentations/Klinger.pdf

[Tony Croft aka hamadryad]

interesting that this thread has gone stagnant, no one wants to play?

[BenR]

:001_tt2:I want to play.. Just don't have any toys... We could always talk about lichens though!

[Tony Croft aka hamadryad]

:001_tt2:I want to play.. Just don't have any toys... We could always talk about lichens though!

 

i game, in fact, as your our resident lichenologist why dont you go and start one dedicated to the stunning lichens, i will back you up!

[BenR]

I will do my best. But I am no teacher!

[Tony Croft aka hamadryad]

I will do my best. But I am no teacher!

 

neither am i

 

we are all students of "teacher tree" (C Mattheck)

[BenR]

:lol:It is begun. We shall see what the trees think of the thread then.. Let me know what they say.