Do all professional chainsaw users think joe public users are fools?

[egnsean]

Could I jump ship to another topic regarding training vis-a-vis innate ability.

Many year ago I were in the TA, at one annual camp we had to do a confidence course through woodland, all between 20 and 40 feet up.

I hated it.

However a bright young spark offen a rough estate was lapping it up.

So anyways one of the PSI's to show off slides face first down the death slide, our young man pipes up & asks "can I try that?" sure go ahead says the PSI thinking it was a wind up....and he promptly did it perfectly....first time no training necessary.

The PSI near **** himself.

With all the training in the world I could not have done it...ever.

Some can...some cant.

Not really sure how this is relevent but hey i'm avoiding filling in my overdue FAC paperwork. sigh.

[skyhuck]

Could I jump ship to another topic regarding training vis-a-vis innate ability.

Many year ago I were in the TA, at one annual camp we had to do a confidence course through woodland, all between 20 and 40 feet up.

I hated it.

However a bright young spark offen a rough estate was lapping it up.

So anyways one of the PSI's to show off slides face first down the death slide, our young man pipes up & asks "can I try that?" sure go ahead says the PSI thinking it was a wind up....and he promptly did it perfectly....first time no training necessary.

The PSI near **** himself.

With all the training in the world I could not have done it...ever.

Some can...some cant.

Not really sure how this is relevent but hey i'm avoiding filling in my overdue FAC paperwork. sigh.

 

Very true!!!!!!!!!!!

[raker]

The real problems start when folks think they can progress from chopping up logs to some tree felling.

A couple of years ago i cleared a mixture of dead elms and sycamore from a building plot. Nothing huge, but most of them needed roping. I was shocked to find some really amateurish deep cuts through some of the trees then just left.They were dangerous, but the cuts were by no means fresh.

I can only think that the individual bottled it and left them. They had attempts at face cuts against the lean of the tree.If continued with, they would at best, have sat back on the bar. At worst fallen the opposite way or even barber chaired.

[logger]

Tbh this modern day thing kind of grates on me a little bit.Im not against training but Ive worked with lads that have got all the tickets with time under their belts that will never be what i would consider good as long as theyve got holes in their bums. Im amazed how little felling knowledge these guys actually have and saw handling is numb to say the least.

Its the kind of job that youve either got it or you havent imo , sure a lot will get through but at a cost to themselves and their workmates.

I had no training as such and cut for 30 years before i had to get tickets , and personally i wouldnt swap any 5 day course for what i learnt out in the real world.

[Andy Collins]

I think we have to remember some people have a natural aptitude to using a saw, others will always struggle. No amount of training will make the latter really good with a saw.