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no mate got no use for a tree spade you have for a kindling machine though!!Selling it cos also run a farm and cant always have a tractor tied upto machine so no tractor means no kindling being produced = no money being made. So now the lads flick the on button & away they go & me to on the tractor simples as they say!!!!

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not discouraged at all, in fact am encouraged that you're taking the time to discuss:001_smile:

 

i take it you've seen the setup i have from previous thread? it certainly is a long-winded way of making and packing kindling but it does seem to be making a little at the moment, however i have hankered after a machine with greater output with less fuss for a long time, but i'm concerned now having provided such a clean presentable package that the shops i supply wont like the nets of kindling even though id be able to offer them cheaper, because of the increase in dross (loose splinters, bark etc).

 

even the basic kindla as opposed to the faster kindlett and other high capacity machines would easily half my production speed. if i could know i would be able to sell high volumes of kindling then i wouldn't hesitate to buy this machine but, well that's it really!:confused1:

 

I have seen your set up fantastic looking kindling product. If you increase your output could you keep up your price. Once you have a shiney new machine you are under pressure to make it pay. Our kindlet machine is rated at 110 bags an hour. My wife uses it on her own to produce neat well packed bags and gets 33 an hour. It can take as long to prepare the wood so to produce 120 bags you could be looking at 6-8 hrs. I would consider an electric machine 23p an hour how much does a tractor use in diesel. if you stick to planed timber through the kindlet you wont get the dross and you could offer those bags cheaper for wholesale.

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I have seen your set up fantastic looking kindling product. If you increase your output could you keep up your price. Once you have a shiney new machine you are under pressure to make it pay. Our kindlet machine is rated at 110 bags an hour. My wife uses it on her own to produce neat well packed bags and gets 33 an hour. It can take as long to prepare the wood so to produce 120 bags you could be looking at 6-8 hrs. I would consider an electric machine 23p an hour how much does a tractor use in diesel. if you stick to planed timber through the kindlet you wont get the dross and you could offer those bags cheaper for wholesale.

 

not sure how much diesel cost would be, depends how fast you want to run the tractor i suppose...:lol:, 23p an hour sounds pretty cheap though:thumbup:, how have you managed to measure that?

 

re planed timber, iv access to plenty of truss making waste myself, couple of questions though;

1. is there an issue with using treated wood for kindling? regards fumes etc, i guess people's opinions differ on that

 

2. when cutting to length for your machine, are you being selective with the knots? i know with my current setup i have to get rid of any knot larger than 1/4 inch, complete faff really. obviously the hydraulics wont grumble and the stroke is completely through each time, whereas mine relies on the wood "popping" and only "cuts" about an inch into the end grain.

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The kindlet is 2kw but only runs for half the time. 1 kw for 1 hr = 11p

You cant use any treated timber. I went into this like an anal anorak about a year ago. It contains chromium copper and arsnic ( or something like that ) gives off fumes when burnt but the ash is the problem especially if people dig it in their veg bed. when you eat the veg it gives you head aches and your children are born with two heads ( only joking about the last bit )

Nails and screws should be avoided. knotts are not a major problem but if its good quality softwood it will lock the machine solid. Tough knotty wood will be a pita. I would go and see fuelwood for a demo. The machine is good but as with most machines the wood sometimes wins.

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The kindlet is 2kw but only runs for half the time. 1 kw for 1 hr = 11p

You cant use any treated timber. I went into this like an anal anorak about a year ago. It contains chromium copper and arsnic ( or something like that ) gives off fumes when burnt but the ash is the problem especially if people dig it in their veg bed. when you eat the veg it gives you head aches and your children are born with two heads ( only joking about the last bit )

Nails and screws should be avoided. knotts are not a major problem but if its good quality softwood it will lock the machine solid. Tough knotty wood will be a pita. I would go and see fuelwood for a demo. The machine is good but as with most machines the wood sometimes wins.

 

surely truss wood is treated no?, i haven't looked into it, but one assumes...

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Yes normally trusses are treated. we source timber that is not treated. Most of it has a green hue but there is now a clear treatment which gives the timber a yellow colour. I would imagine in time they will devise a treatment which will be harmless when burnt but its not out there yet.

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