Fungus id needed please

[Tony Croft aka hamadryad]

Hama, I know it's impossible to tell from photos, but I think your first ID on the bracket might be the right one. Shape isn't always reliable, but I think that lip around the edge of the bracket is more Ganoderma than Phelinus and the location of the fruit body at the base of the tree also fits the bill?

 

What will you do with the FB to make a positive ID?

 

I will disect it, count the pores per mm, etc comparing to all my books, but I will know as soon as its in my hand, and i am curious about it because if G. applanatum then its rounded curvey language is MOST unusual, this is more typical of a forming phellinus. THAT is the scientific method but...

 

I have also NEVER seen slugs eat the surface of Applanatum and if you look, thier was a slug, a black one dissapearing rapidly to left of image! and marks where it had started to devour the pore surface of this bracket.

 

My views may seem over confidant at times, but I spend a lot of time looking, i like to call it observational science, Alan rayner wood call it Peripheral view, "inclusionality". hardcore science is rigid, and forces the eye into narrow confines, the singularity. "Observe a thing not only by itself, but in its context and natural nieghbourhood" do not view life through a lens, embrace your peripheral vision, open your mind to "natural nieghbourhood" and see the bigger picture.

[Albedo]

Hi hama

 

This kind of thinking, inclusional / out of the box /holistic, is one of your strengths, and a quality I've seen in you a lot and I admire it, and I'm a trained scientist, sort of, - BSc environmental science.

 

You must catch James Lovelock on telly soon. BBC4 wednesdays 9pm. Last week was some scientist that discovered pulsars, not sure when JL is on but he's coming soon. He is a truly great man, invented the electron detector for GC machine - conventional science, but also thinks like you do and is reponsible for Gaia hypothesis, daisy world etc.

 

Don't miss it or I will be very cross with you:thumbup1:

[Tony Croft aka hamadryad]

Hi hama

 

This kind of thinking, inclusional / out of the box /holistic, is one of your strengths, and a quality I've seen in you a lot and I admire it, and I'm a trained scientist, sort of, - BSc environmental science.

 

You must catch James Lovelock on telly soon. BBC4 wednesdays 9pm. Last week was some scientist that discovered pulsars, not sure when JL is on but he's coming soon. He is a truly great man, invented the electron detector for GC machine - conventional science, but also thinks like you do and is reponsible for Gaia hypothesis, daisy world etc.

 

Don't miss it or I will be very cross with you:thumbup1:

 

remind me nearer the time and I will watch!

 

And thanks for the compliment! I do try VERY hard to emphasise the way we observe things is flawed in many ways, today i am stepping this up a gear and really pushing what is to me a way of thinking we ALL need to embrace.

 

i just hope I can find a way to get the idea across without losing peoples will to live! it isnt all academic stuff! quite the reverse.

 

i think there are a great many men in this world all coming to one way of thinking, but via different routes, and all are top academics who shun their regimes and confines to push beyond the limits of convential (third body problematic) scientific approaches. Claus developing a spoken mechanics, Alan rayner chalenging our trained perception that did not exist in us as a child, when we was unhindered by regimes and "traditional thinking"

[Albedo]

I'll let you know when its on.

 

JL refers to the 'scientific straight jacket' in the intro to one of his books.

 

I am afraid that the more you get into conventional learning, the more you will be frustrated. Its not designed for free thinkers like you, its a sausage factory, for people with very little ability to think independantly at all.

 

You have to just grit yer teeth and get the bit of paper, by jumping thru their stupid hoops

[Tony Croft aka hamadryad]

I'll let you know when its on.

 

JL refers to the 'scientific straight jacket' in the intro to one of his books.

 

I am afraid that the more you get into conventional learning, the more you will be frustrated. Its not designed for free thinkers like you, its a sausage factory, for people with very little ability to think independantly at all.

 

You have to just grit yer teeth and get the bit of paper, by jumping thru their stupid hoops

 

I have unfortunatley come to realise this, and it is a sad sad state of affairs when education becomes more about rules and regulations, about conforming to a "method" and "regime" of expected a tight tolerances.

 

Education for me has always been a self motivated thing, an unshooled scholar, not trained in the ways of academia, AND THANK GOD FOR THAT!

 

I am a frre flowing, highly motivated and passionate natural born includer who sees the world around him through the unhindered and free way that a child does, i never got trained to think, i was developing on my own, and i am so so glad I did, even if now, in many ways it holds me back profesionaly.

[Albedo]

I would just add hama old bean.

 

Don't push the converting everybody thing too hard, there's quite a lot of bright, clever people on here. They just go about things differently, or have come to different conclusions..... read between the lines,,,

[Bundle 2]

Hama, I know it's impossible to tell from photos, but I think your first ID on the bracket might be the right one. Shape isn't always reliable, but I think that lip around the edge of the bracket is more Ganoderma than Phelinus and the location of the fruit body at the base of the tree also fits the bill?

 

What will you do with the FB to make a positive ID?

 

I know you are aware of the red data list status of Phellinus robustus Hama. Your having stated it is more commonly seen than reputation suggests, doesnt it make sense to record this in a way that lends itself to redressing this?

I personally think it is not Phellinus robustus but it would be interesting to make a positive identification.

[Tony Croft aka hamadryad]

I know you are aware of the red data list status of Phellinus robustus Hama. Your having stated it is more commonly seen than reputation suggests, doesnt it make sense to record this in a way that lends itself to redressing this?

I personally think it is not Phellinus robustus but it would be interesting to make a positive identification.

 

It admittedly doesnt have the slight gold biege band I would expect, and having had another look to the back of the fruit body there is an atypical ridge formation I would associate with Applanatum, so I am totaly waiting for the body to arive for autopsy! we shall see!

 

I will be making records in time, but not till i have my scopes etc, the scientific comunity require a very detailed identification for certainty, and i have been mocked in the past, this will not happen again, and hence i do not "participate" formely. But when i can get the scopes etc, them records will fly in!

[Albedo]

Just 2 small edits.

 

James Lovelock said 'academic straight jacket' not scientific. An important distinction I think.

 

My 'read between the lines' comment - I had no idea how it was supposed to apply here, but it had come to mind, and I put it down to wine induced poetic licence.

 

I shall derail the thread no further, for now, Your's the derailerer:001_smile:

[Tony Croft aka hamadryad]

Just 2 small edits.

 

James Lovelock said 'academic straight jacket' not scientific. An important distinction I think.

 

My 'read between the lines' comment - I had no idea how it was supposed to apply here, but it had come to mind, and I put it down to wine induced poetic licence.

 

I shall derail the thread no further, for now, Your's the derailerer:001_smile:

 

Actualy paul, i TOTALY got what you meant first time round!, just for a change!