Is my piston for an Stihl MS230 genuine and how to assemble the cylinder screws?

[montyjohn]

I've just bought a new cylinder and piston off eBay.

The eBay title read "Genuine Stihl Cylinder With Piston 40mm 023" and I'm wondering if I've fallen for a sneaky trick, where the cylinder is genuine but the piston isn't.

I'm not familiar with genuine Stihl parts so I was hoping somebody here would know eitherway form the pictures below.

 

My old piston has P15D written on the top, whilst the new one says T15C. Anybody know what these mean?

The arrow and writing on top of the old piston is a bit neater.

Some of the lettering on the side are a bit different also.

The final thing is the piston rings on the new one are black, whilst the old ones look silver. Is this normal?

 

Is the above anything to worry about?

If not, then I'll ask the seller to confirm it's genuine and take his word for it, otherwise, if there's anything that's an obvious issue, I'd like to know beforehand.

 

Final point which I hadn't anticipated.

The screws for the bottom casing appear to be self tapping, and there is no thread in the cylinder. Is this expected on a genuine cylinder?

And does anyone know how they would assemble?

Would you use the screws on the cylinder before assembling to cut the threads to make final assembly easier?

Would you seal it on the bench with some spacers (screws would be too long otherwise), take the screws out after the sealant has set, then carefully fit in the chainsaw.

Or just fit the screws for the first time in the chainsaw with sealant and put some muscle into it, it'll be fine?

 

Many thanks

 

Original Piston

 

New Piston

 

Side by side

Edited January 4, 2022 by montyjohn
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[Macpherson]

Perhaps neither is genuine, what year is the saw ? 

 

I thought that Stihl pistons were made by Mahle which afaik is usually marked , but perhaps this is no longer the case, the markings you show look like they're done with an etching pencil when I'd expect them to be stamped... found this picture of an oem piston, the markings are different but hard to see, but there are others on here who will know more than me about this saw, good luck. 

 

NEW OEM STIHL Chainsaw 40mm Piston Kit 021 023 L MS 230 C SP FS 400 K L (READ!)

WWW.EBAY.COM

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Stihl part number for item : 1123 030 2000, 11230302000. Notes : The use of this piston on the models listed above...

 

[ChrisNewport]

Whats it say inside the piston? actually cast into it rather than scratched on? Yes they are self tappers and there should be no thread in the 4 holes. You assemble the piston to the crank, slide the piston into the cylinder and sit the brearings and seals in their places, run a like of Dirko over the sealing face of the cylinder and then put the base pan on, Hold it all together and fit it into the housing then put in the screws and tighten in a cross corners pattern

Edited January 5, 2022 by ChrisNewport

[montyjohn]

11 hours ago, Macpherson said:

Perhaps neither is genuine, what year is the saw ? 

The saw is about 10, maybe 12 years old, and was bought new by my farther in law.

Had very light occasional use until he put neat fuel in it. Free saw for me....

It's had no work done to it, the the old piston is definitely a genuine stihl one.

 

[montyjohn]

39 minutes ago, ChrisNewport said:

Whats it say inside the piston? 

Not all that much.

Pictures below are all of the new one.

Inside it just has a "37"

The old piston has a "22" and nothing else.

Batch numbers maybe?

[montyjohn]

42 minutes ago, ChrisNewport said:

You assemble the piston to the crank, slide the piston into the cylinder and sit the brearings and seals in their places, run a like of Dirko over the sealing face of the cylinder and then put the base pan on, Hold it all together and fit it into the housing then put in the screws and tighten in a cross corners pattern

 

Perfect, thanks for the clarification