petzl ball lock

[frans]

My opinion, (of which I have many) is that a biner with little plastic buttons has no place in tree work....

 

Kind of a gimmick

[Jason James Gairn]

Petzl equipment is primarily designed to suffer the impacts associated with rock climbing and mountaineering. This includes smashing against rock on a regular basis. Rock is way harder than wood (although concrete under a tree is a close cousin) So I'm suprised that one should break. I use them as I dont trust 3way twisties as they can open easily when a rope passes across and down the gate. I've never had one of the plastic ones ever fail, but I do maintain them regularly. The Petzl recall was on the metal ones made in the states. Dont dis the plastic man, our ropes are essentially plastic too.

[Bundle 2]

I'm not dissin plastic brother...just the choice of material that Petzl chose to run with. Plastics are a huge conglomerate family of versatile polymers that can be hard to even spot as a plastic at times....amen to that my friend. If the design was conceived in consultation with arborists so much the better yeah....?

Actually alot of climbing carabiners are snap gates...

safety features on gate mechanisms are desiged for use within arboriculture...(altho' not solely) Interestingly, its seems to be the arborists that deny mechanical devices the like of which would have to include the lockjack and so on over more tried and tested techniques when rock climbers enjoy the benefits of friends ( mech cams ) and alot more besides....mmmmmmmm

 

Trees and rock are cousins but quite individual beasts with identifiably different needs, problems and criteria...!!!! lol:motz:

But hey, Its gonna be interesting however this thing plays out eh>><><

[Log-ologist]

petzl ball lock was a great theory , in practice it was a bit of a let down .

[Bundle 2]

petzl ball lock was a great theory , in practice it was a bit of a let down .

 

Yeah...I dont even think that it was an ill conceived idea. It sets out tu address the issue of the gates being twisted by external forces working the gate in some way thus rendering the device potentially life threatening. I mean, no-one watches the gates at all times,,it s not possible or practical. It even really comes pretty close to achievin this as alot of you it would seem rate the gear with some confidence.What I dont like is the fiddly nature of the buttons. Unfortunately if this was not so, they too would become liable to unpredictable behaviour when exposed to external and unexpected forces.

That aside, we can all live with some inconvenience

if it means undeniably safer equipment. Nylon may not be my personal material of choice for the gates. Apparently Petzl too had second thoughts on this.

Presumably the equipment failing is either a quality issue or design flaw..Be careful out there those of you using this gear is all...>>>:wave: