Treelover1000

I actually agree with this to an extent. Even if you are paid more as self employed, by the time you consider, sick pay, holiday pay, PPE, pensions etc..... you're actually most likely worse off unless you're being paid £180+ a day. However there are plusses and minuses to both...

Worth a read, I think there are some good points in there about the professional standards to set yourself if considering working for multiple different companies and I partially agree with a lot of what the author says. I liked the part titled sub contractors and the section which speaks about providing your own safe working systems, it's a useful reminder.

I feel like this is what being self employed should really look like, Just a few questions on sub contracting in for climbing work for multiple companies. 1. what's the best way to get started 2. what to charge, as a climber 5 years+ experience happy to do most jobs and lead a team if necessary (not including providing truck and chipper) but providing own saws, climbing and rigging kit. 3. Does anyone on here have success at maintaining a full time diary doing this and how do they find the experience?

It really depends on the individual and what they bring to the table. I don't see any reason why a grounds person can't earn as much as £180 for the day depending on the role they were filling. they could be a team leader in charge of instructing the jobs and the general safety of the team, customer care, years of experience etc... however from what I've seen, most people struggle to get more than £150 for ground work unless its their own and id say on average probably looking at 100-120.

What's everyones thoughts on the great debate of being self-employed vs employed? which is better financially in the long run?

I work for a small tree surgery firm our groundsman gets paid £110 with CS30/31 and first aid. He can easily earn more but he needs to develop more skills.