SarahD
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Quite right, One day hopefully. Now, isn't the best of times.
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Yes, lots of birds...and rats. I've cleared the undergrowth at the front, gradually working my way back.
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I'm not sure I can get in a position to take a photo that shows the trees proximity to the house clearly enough. This is from the back view, but the garden is small and if I step back any further a butterfly bush obscures any view. Out front, the road is very narrow before I'm bumping into the houses opposite.
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OK, I'll try. Post them this evening.
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Yes, it is.
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Ok, even though the trunk and/or canopy of each one is higher than the house? Maybe I'll get a few quotes then.
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Maybe I'll speak to the poor bloke who had to readjust his boundary fence first. From the photos can anyone give me an idea (if it possible to assess from them) whether the trees are a risk to my property and what kind of price would I expect to pay for removal? I think I might then need to contact Burges Salmon who hold possession of the escheat land to confirm their position on maintenance responsibilities. According to the council website there is no TPO on them, and I assume they cover all land regardless, council or private.
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I agree, which is why I don't object to the neighbour's raised beds, but there are an awful lot of people around who make their business to interfere; I don't know what their motivation is.
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And they'd probably dump all the rubbish on some other poor bugger's property for them to clear up. One year the travellers, who at least annually camp on one of the verges on the estate, left a dead horse behind (along with loads of pallets etc) when they moved on. It's us council tax payers who pick up the cost of the clean-up.
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I think the 'p' word may be banned these days. We get lots of travellers around who do knock and ask about cutting the trees back. I'm doubtful they would have any insurance (never mind the skill) and I think the implications for me and the neighbours if they did cause any damage are not something I would want to deal with.
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D'you know, I've no idea whether they are owners or tenants and the piece they put the raised beds on had no trees, just brambles. To add more beds they would have had to cut the trees down, so perhaps they are in the same position. If the trees fell, they are far enough away from their property not to damage it.
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Thank you. I'll have a thorough read through later. My first thoughts would be how do you prove you have been squatting for the required period. I think fencing it off may have been already attempted locally and failed. Interestingly my neighbours whose house sits behind the escheat ground (it's a cul-de-sac) so their front door faces it, but adjacent to my back garden, have put a couple of raised beds on part of it. I didn't object. It doesn't belong to me and seemed better than the brambles that grew there beforehand. Maybe, this is their plan.
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Here are some photos. I'm not sure if they are adequate enough. The four whose trunk/canopy are taller than the house seem to be a fir, two cherries, the fourth (first image), I've no idea what it. All the trees are intertwining. Second image shows edge of my boundary and the start of the first tree. Sitting to the back of these is a a few elderflower and two rowans, which are manageable.
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Ah, I see. Couldn't believe my eyes when somebody posted on local FB page that ground underneath road or pavement was up for sale. Had to check it wasn't April 1. It was later withdrawn I believe, although not sure why, but it did create some agitation from the residents.
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To the local authority. As I said in an earlier post, I saw another householder on the estate gradually clear away trees (very small area that probably doubled the length of his handkerchief-sized back garden) and then eventually fence off the area, only later to then set the fence back to what I think was the original boundary. Nobody would go to the expense of this unless they received some kind of official warning.
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I think it best I post pictures to see whether the considered opinion here is that the trees post a risk to my property. They worry me, but then I'm not knowledgeable enough to assess the risk properly. And, I agree, that buying the land would probably long-term add a value to the house, even with a caveat of no development, but the mortgage etc is enough right now. Maybe one day in the future. When you say you had to pay a considerable amount for your land because of it's location, what do you mean? I've heard about 'droit du seigneur' before and, I'm assuming, later legislation nulled the original laws.
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The tallest, is a fir I think, another some kind of cherry and not sure the other big'un, but it's further away from the house and leaning towards the road so less of a concern to me. Then there are a a few smaller ones too, including an elderberry.
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Well, speaking to a neighbour who bought their house when it was new in the 80s, I think the trees were planted by the house builders to make the area look attractive for house-buyers. These saplings, however, have grown and I think it's likely that others, unmanaged in the little pockets of now escheat land, have self-seeded. Trees are lovely, but they need to be managed if they are near properties. And, the time of purchase, I had never heard of escheat land - I would have assumed it was owned by the council - and was not alerted to it by the solicitors. We live, we learn.
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I'll do that.
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It's pricemyjob, checkatrade that I've got the prices from. It's not that I don't understand that the work is skilled, time-consuming and can be dangerous. However, out of interest I will post some photos later and I'd be interested to know what amount would be deemed reasonable.
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I haven't got a quote in person; I got the prices from mybuilder, checkatrade and the like.
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I'd worry about being reported.
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Probably wouldn't, but I've looked up prices (although maybe worth getting real quote) and it would probably be a grand a tree. Now way I can come up with that kind of money. I think I'm just going have to check my insurance policy to make sure I'm covered, but I'll keep on looking for cases like this that may come to court. You never know. Thank you everyone for replying.
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It seems that I would have to establish beyond reasonable doubt that the land is subject to escheat and incur the financial burden this would involve. That would be a hefty amount for me, but lucrative business for Salmon Burges. At the end of this process, I maybe, just maybe, allowed to purchase the land that the government obtained without cost at the market price (and living in the south-east that's going to be higher than most other areas I would think). In the meantime, I'm left (and I wish my solicitor had advised me about escheat land) with a little patch of wasteland with huge trees, which is great for the birds and the rats, but not so much for my house. I think house builders should be barred from planting trees on any developments. They might look nice at the beginning, but over time, if the council does not take ownership, they become a burden.
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Thank you. As I recall the legal fees started around 4k and that was a few years ago and then whatever they decide the land was worth on top, together with the uncertainty that the sale would even be approved, is too much for me to even contemplate. Financially, even to have the trees pruned/lopped is too much of a burden right now and they are a size where it cannot be done without the proper gear and expertise. The Crown Estate hold all the cards; land they got for free that they can sell on and no responsibility for maintenance in the meantime.
