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Just now, htb said:

It will work with xtc, just not as well as some of the skinnier ropes.

Thankyou bud

I want to try a zig zag am hoping it will work ok with the rope I already have I heard its doesn't work well with chubbier stuff I know specs on paper say up to 13mm but my mate said it won't work well with what I have which is 12.6mm. Thanks 

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11 hours ago, Rosanbo said:

I will try to film it.  I'm going to do it no matter what so any help on my questions would be in my best interests.  I know it's a small saw, but I'm sure it can do it.  I have cut a couple of  similar sized trees with it before. 

 

Is that Buckin Billy pun ? Nice one if it is. 

Remeber friends be kind 

19 minutes ago, Mark Bolam said:

Absolutely Hanz.

 

When @Mick Dempsey teams it up with one of these beauties he’ll be on a real winner.

 

Eye, and if you don't wear your chainsaw boots to the forestry shows you ain't in the trade 

On 12/10/2020 at 13:22, Joe Newton said:

You would think, but unless you work with regular groundies the amount of people that struggle to undo them is unbelievable, and then there are the retards that will use the starter handle to tighten them up again...

Looks pretty cool with those caps....and we all know the cooler it looks the better it cuts 

On 09/06/2020 at 08:13, Mark Bolam said:

Let us know how it goes mate.

Apparently they have ironed out the sometimes temperamental starting issues with the new model.

 

Still loving my first generation model.

Will do! my old one was a bit of a tit to start somtimes. Put an hour on it yestuday instantly remembered why it was my favourite saw before the mishap such an angry little wasp of a saw and so light 

6 hours ago, gand said:

What did you pay? Is it 1/4 bar?

Honey bros. Yep  1/4 . Shouldnt really say what I paid but it wasn't a lot. I'm fairly certain the carving bar that's on it is slightly different from the last one I had (sold it so cant do a side by side) cant notice any other changes 

Got bored of waiting for a 151 to come into stock so here she is... not quite never again but I havnt used an echo for a month ?.... also forgot how cheap these are as well 

7 hours ago, Khriss said:

.... Plus it allows hours of fun ripping you a new arsehole online whilst bored at home an  looking at a shed full of old saws to fix  ( which you now can't get parts delivered cos C19 ) whilst waiting for WineOclock,  followed by an evening knocking one out to that old Vera  Lynne album you got in charity shop, in yr kipper smelling slippers   ? K

All this no/slow delivery blaiming c19 is just lazy people looking for something to blame amazon still next day delivery radmore and tucker still nexday all the rest just looking for an excuse typical British attitude I hope the companies who didn't push through this fall by the wayside and those who worked through rise to the top.... saying that I am sat in me garden in me boxers in the sun eating barbeque and NOT working but I did wash the truck do the lawn trim the hedges teach my 6 year old to start the mower swings and round abouts 

7 hours ago, PeteB said:

Back in the day, (maybe 30 years ago) I had a couple of twin cylinder Echo saws. They were good! Thirsty but by god, they cut cut!

6 hours ago, Khriss said:

First Echo's i ever saw in dealers in Cumbria - mad money but they looked beasts !   K

By mad money do you mean 3 coupons from yer ration book ? ?

9 hours ago, Paul in the woods said:

This might be worth a read if anyone else has a problem.

 

 

Yeah I saw that's as soon as he said his mod leaked fuel and the new bar studs were working their way out I started looking for a new saw. I used to like tinkering with my kit now I just want it to work spot on all the time no tinkering 

19 minutes ago, peatff said:

There looks a lot of wear on that stud to say it screws into a plastic chassis. It must have been spinning free for some time to wear out like that. It does look like it's had some abuse and I don't mean verbal after it bit you.

 It has been said that I'm heavy handed but Its definitely all the saws fault and not mine and anybody who disagrees is wrong.... obviously I never ever got it stuck in a cut or pulled it out of said cut....honest guv 

9 hours ago, Mark_Skyland said:

Dont worry, I have seen many a Friday machine while carrying out pre delivery inspections , I was just saying that it isnt a known issue i.e it isnt a common problem.

 

That's the thing I forget sometimes when googling a problem.....for every moaning thread in a forum theres probably 10,000 happy customers not moaning. Thanks for your input I've bought bits from skylanders in the past and delivery/customer communication was top notch!!

2 hours ago, Khriss said:

Nooooo   ... once They tasted blood  they want more  ?   K

I should have called this thread once bitten twice shy ?

46 minutes ago, Timbermcpherson said:

 There are thousands of 2511's about, if it was a common issue it would have been sorted like the heat issue with the 2510's were.

Yup might not be common but once is enough for me 

2 hours ago, Rough Hewn said:

It's a weight thing isn't it.
Plastic is very light.
Look at all the components which have been changed from metals.

Echo are a decent Saw manufacturer.
They sell several very reliable models.
Like every chainsaw manufacturer though there are duff models or components.

We had 2 of their bigger tophandles on my last firm. they were wicked me old boss chucked em out of the tree into the brash pile sometimes never any problems over 3 years and they never got any mechanical attention. 

45 minutes ago, lurkalot said:

STIHL do.   MS-171 MS-181 to name two of them.  They tear out if overtightened, or will unscrew with the nut.  STIHL even do a oversized threaded stud to replace the ones that have ripped the thread out of the plastic engine housing. 

Bugger. Although those are home use saws I think, the ones I have are forestry spec although I could be wrong I'm just a user not a mechanic 

6 hours ago, lux said:

They aren’t fragile at all. Had my 2511 since they came out. Had it modded by spud and it’s an awesome saw. Doesn’t need any special treatment. I’d say tougher than the current plastic fantastic saws by stihl.
201’s have far more a reputation for disintegrating handles and filter covers .....

Yep the filter covers are shite although I just got a 2019 one and the plastics all seem a lot tougher than my older ones and the filter cover and oil/fuel covers extra are secure compared to others I've used 

5 hours ago, Mark_Skyland said:

Tbh it isnt a known issue. It is to do with tightening the bar nut too tight otherwise there would be a lot more of this going on, and there isnt.

Ive seen a few 50/60cc stihl and husky machines with broken bar studs, there is only one reason why they have failed.

 

 

So your telling me a bad saw cant leave the factory? It's never happened, sounds a bit naive to me 

7 hours ago, Ian C said:

Have 2 fir over 2 years and had no bother at all, you will find there’s plenty of moans about ms150s being made of paper !

Hopefully i get a good 150 and I got a bad echo I did really like the saw and did sing its praises but when the stud came out and the metal insert disintegrated in my hands like foil my mind was made up. I used to try to use the 201 for everything but it gets a bit snatchy with the smaller stuff also it's great to have a pruning saw you cant even tell is on the harness. To be honest it was a knee-jerk reaction to sell the echo and buy the stihl but if I'd got another echo and it happened again but worse I'd only have myself to blame. Also I didn't like that the chain adjuster was built into the chain cover. 

33 minutes ago, jmac said:

Clean the blood off it and I will buy it off you ??

Had it sold and 151 ordered before lunchtime today... only lost £250 on it ?

57 minutes ago, Joe Newton said:

You've over tightened that. That's how bar studs strip. Plenty of manufacturers mount bar studs into plastic

Just put a brand new chain on, left bolt a bit loose as I'm wary of how fragile this tiny thing is, chain became slack nipped it up slightly more nowhere near as tight as my 201s or 261 or 661 ect.... and it shit itself. I definitely wasnt heavy handed with it ever obviously something made it come out but saw has been babied more than any other bit of kit own. Loved the power to weight and the fact it has no chip in it but i love my fingers more 

30 minutes ago, AngrySquirrel said:

How would it go on if it had taken your hand off? or had injured someone else due to bar coming adrift like if you dropped it from height?

 

I'd take it up with H&SE/Trading standards etc as they sniff round phone chargers like a crack addict going on about no Earth! when they are double earthed anyway so none have an earthing pin! yet they scream and shout so should do something about this instead

I'm very very glad it didn't do any real damage. In all honesty putting this up in the forum as a warning to others  is as far as I'll take it. paperwork, emails finding E-receipts is all a bit bothersome,. I will have forgot by tomorrow and will definitely have forgot by tuesday when my stihl 151 turns up. 

1 minute ago, AngrySquirrel said:

Piss poor show i'd say as bar studs need to be pretty secure as getting undo at other end frequently and under fair bit of stress.

Yep and as it's a know issue you would think there would be a recall or redesign but it seems if you have a problem they "fix" it by adding a foil sleeve for the bar stud to screw into....no thanks very much I'll go back to stihl 

Less than 6 months old has been babied the whole time use my 201s for most stuff. Heard it's a known issue  they should fix/discontinue it!! imagine if it had took a finger. Who beds a bar stud into plastic? Bloody stupid design wasted a good 10 minutes of work time cleaning me hand up!!