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Posts posted by Murdock
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Freelance climber looking for work with own tipper van and or chipper. (Will travel).
15 years experience and qualified. Good rates.
Will work as groundsman with van and chipper, or alternatively will hire out wood chipper (timberwolf 230, 8" sub 750kg). Based in South Hampshire.
Message me or call Chris, 07479 683 055. -
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On 08/05/2018 at 20:06, Steve Bullman said:Shared for you. Good luck with the sale
Thanks
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Looking for freelance climbers and groundsmen willing to undertake work in Hampshire, Dorset, West Sussex and Surrey area. Please contact Chris 07737 327 201 or email [email protected]. Good rates of pay
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So, apart from Sparsholt and Merrist Wood, where are the other arboricultural training centres in the UK???
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So, apart from Sparsholt and Merrist Wood, where are the other arboricultural training centres in the UK???
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So, apart from Sparsholt and Merrist Wood, where are the other arboricultural training centres in the UK???
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On 07/08/2017 at 22:58, IRE David H said:
WesD its possible a large tree company might (or might not) buy the business to expand, like a certain forum member with blue equipment
Thanks David H, just seen this.
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4 minutes ago, Marc said:
I was going about it in a roundabout way, the advert gives no indication of what the assets are worth so for me the turnover makes no sense, a good truck, chipper, the tools and a yard would be worth the asking price alone.
The client address book and company image isn't worth much at all.
it would be like me as a freelance climbing arborist saying, I am going to retire I earn 45-50k a year working pay me 40% in one lump sum and I will give you me contacts. After all when I am gone they will still need a climber.
i would have more luck selling my assets.
Sorry just my view.
Mark, the reason I am not giving these details away is because these details are only available to people who are genuinely interested in buying a tree surgery business, the link is available for the agent who would be administrating the sale.
And it wouldn't be anything like a freelance climber selling his contacts, you wouldn't "have" to climb to start with.
Yes you are giving your view, but you view is full of assumptions, and isn't a good view at all, what is being sold is a business that has assets and makes money, with room for expansion, excellent reputation, well known name locally, over 400 recorded happy clients, you wouldn't have to climb, I have months when I cant be arsed to climb, if I wasn't doing a degree in my spare time I could easily earn much more, if you are interested in more details or if anyone is the can pm me, I can them talk to them personally and show them my tax returns, and the other details. It doesn't have to make sense to you, but if you want it to pm me I'll give you my number and I'll explain. But lets just say, I could go out just pricing and still earn a decent wage, that's the next natural step, I personally like to be on the tools, but age takes its toll, whoever takes the company over would find themselves in a good position. -
Thanks Wes, I did expect a mainly sarky response, but you gotta get word out haven't you. The first company I worked for was owned by two individuals who paid 15k each for the company, they worked for peanuts and has shit gear, I do okay and have good gear, and this was 15 years ago.
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7 minutes ago, WesD said:
Which bit is wrong?
Selling kit has a greater audience?
Potential buyers will more than likely be from your area hence smaller audience?
You have built the relationships with your customers it is your reputation they are paying for?
Tech savvy world web sites, logos and business cards are ten a penny?
Im intrigued to hear which is wrong?!
For what it is worth I was offering advice not being negative.
If you think hunk this place is full of primadonnas why post it on here? (Strange)
MacDonalds pretty sure you mean McDonalds and to be frank only ever eaten there nothing else.
You have a turnover of 70k and 40k of that is profit now my math says that leaves 30k operating costs now you say the staff will stay customers know THEM well, implying more than one now what are you paying them as well as fuel, machinery downtime, insurance vehicle and business etc etc etc
lets say staff of 2 minimal number on 14k each (McDonalds wage) that leaves 2k to spend on everything else . . . . Doesn't look like a good venture this? Either that or the books are wrong and the profit is less hmmm.
Hows that hat for a negative break down?
If you are genuinely interested you will be able to view the profit from the tax returns filed to HMRC. This is available to people who are genuinely interested in making an investment, not to any Tom Dick or Harry
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3 minutes ago, WesD said:
Which bit is wrong?
Selling kit has a greater audience?
Potential buyers will more than likely be from your area hence smaller audience?
You have built the relationships with your customers it is your reputation they are paying for?
Tech savvy world web sites, logos and business cards are ten a penny?
Im intrigued to hear which is wrong?!
For what it is worth I was offering advice not being negative.
If you think hunk this place is full of primadonnas why post it on here? (Strange)
MacDonalds pretty sure you mean McDonalds and to be frank only ever eaten there nothing else.
You have a turnover of 70k and 40k of that is profit now my math says that leaves 30k operating costs now you say the staff will stay customers know THEM well, implying more than one now what are you paying them as well as fuel, machinery downtime, insurance vehicle and business etc etc etc
lets say staff of 2 minimal number on 14k each (McDonalds wage) that leaves 2k to spend on everything else . . . . Doesn't look like a good venture this? Either that or the books are wrong and the profit is less hmmm.
Hows that hat for a negative break down?
Wes, if you wish to get a further breakdown I have sent you a messaage, or you can contact the agent who will be administrating the sale, its all legit.
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On 09/08/2017 at 10:43, surveyor said:
For what it's worth, I bought a survey business, albeit not for this much cash, but also inherited the vehicle payments and the major instrument payments, and it was very valuable to inherit the phone number particularly. It enabled me to have a steady flow of work from the get go. This enabled me to pay off all my debts associated with the business after about a year. Of course I bought the business from the owner, who had been my boss.
Exactly, thanks, there would be a reasonably timed handover period, and I would insure that who ever bought it would be up for the job. When I say promptly leaving the country, I mean hopefully within a year.
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On 08/08/2017 at 08:01, Warners said:
I've seen these type of thing before.. Goodwill doesn't count for much... Signed contracts do..
Sell the assets for as much as you can... maybe as a job lot if you want a quick sale.. Your client list might mean that your job lot of kit will be more attractive.. however I purchased a small gardening firm years ago and most of the clients weren't interested.. So the value for me was in the kit.
Good luck with your move..
Sorry to here it didn't work out well for you, there would be a handover period which is valuable as clients get a chance to know the new man in charge and for word to get around, that looks a lot better than just fucking off and leaving a book of clients. Which isnt very professional at all.
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4 minutes ago, Mick Dempsey said:
You said Monday you were leaving the country so open to offers, now there's no rush.
Anyway, if you put it on Arbtrader you wouldn't get the comments.
Yes, "on Monday", I said I was leaving the country, not, "I'm leaving the country on "Monday." I don;t have to leave, and I am definitely not going to rush
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On 08/08/2017 at 10:49, dan494 said:
I'd imagine that's wage drawn, not profits??
Yes, as I am a sole trader not a ltd company (I was ltd once), anyway, 40k is the taxable profit drawn on the last years accounts, if it were a ltd company it would be your wage, say 30k wth 10k profit, or a wage of 20k with 20k profit which you pay corporation tax on......
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On 07/08/2017 at 21:30, WesD said:
I think you would be better selling your kit and getting what you can back money wise that way. Your audience would be greater as people will travel to buy a van chipper saws and cutters etc etc however the business sale has a target audience of your area and frankly the reputation is yours not the businesses the phone numbers and contacts are worthless to someone with no rappor with those customers and logos web sites etc well that ain't worth much in this tech savvy world.
Sorry for being blunt but if you are in a rush for some money return, sell the assets and forget the business.
I think you are completely wrong, the staff would stay with the business and my clientele know them very well, I have known of business's (tree surgery) in the area changing hands and retaining nearly all of their clientele. I'm in no rush, I'm earning good money so there is no panic. Sorry to be blunt, I did expect a lot of negative feedback from the primadonnas of the arb forum, so its all good. My experience has been to the contrary, I know of tee surgery and gardening (landscaping too) business's that have changed hands retaining nearly all of their clientele, the asking price isn't actually far off £60.00/per client including the machinery, if you cant earn money off that then best go back to MacDonald's.
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Open to reasonable offers due to promptly leaving the country.
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Marc, if you want more information, contact the agent via the link, for someone new to the industry they could have this comfortably paid within four years, have a van and chipper running with a very descent, guaranteed income, that you would only otherwise get climbing like a chimp every single day of the week. (unless you went down the academic route of course).
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Company name, logos, telephone numbers, client database (about 400), local reputation, etc etc etc,
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Of course you can be blunt, What is for sale is a business, the business has assets which it has equity in, but what you get is a business with a very good local reputation, nearly all domestic clients who need repeat work doing each year, a list of every client, with the address, room to expand more into landscaping too. A company that runs well and turns a tidy profit with zero leg work, open to all offers, have a look on the link if you want some further info.
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23 hours ago, Murdock said:
Tree surgery business for sale, due to desire to emigrate, excellent local reputation. Turnover 70k, yearly, 40k yearly profit. Mainly domestic clients, every client recorded since 2009, database with over 400 clients, many of which are 6 month to 3 yearly repeats.
Please contact for more details, based in Hampshire.
Great for new to industry or veterans alike.
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Tree surgery business for sale, due to desire to emigrate, excellent local reputation. Turnover 70k, yearly, 40k yearly profit. Mainly domestic clients, every client recorded since 2009, database with over 400 clients, many of which are 6 month to 3 yearly repeats.
Please contact for more details, based in Hampshire.
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