Duffryn

Did you come up with a solution on this ? 

Hi.

I'm after a couple of full loads each of Cherry and Apple - must be processor friendly up to 40cm. I'll pay £90 delivered to just outside of Hay on Wye.  

Thanks

Iain

On 10/04/2020 at 09:04, richy_B said:

The back ache has almost gone with this. The bench delivers the logs at waist height , the machine is stepped up and we use a chair to hold the net whilst its tied. The lads can go all day on it without slowing down too much. That wasn't the case with the old tilting tray method. More than welcome to demo the machine and let people have a go with it if anyone wants to.

 

 

6 hours ago, arboriculturist said:

Thanks for the speedy post. 1m3 hardwood bulk say £120 = 20 bags @ £6 retail to customer yourself = £120 and all the overheads/handling.

 1m3 bulk delivery - we don't need to touch a log roundwood to delivery point.

 

So cannot see unless selling all soft for £6 bag there is any margin. Perhaps there is not 1/20th / m3 in a bag, as I don't know the bag size or packed dimensions / log length. I must be missing something.

 

I have always wished to sell barrow bags and your size bags but I have never been able to make the costings stand up !  Please advise ?

You get a fair bit more than 20 x 40L bags out of a 1m3 loose cube. The point is that net sales tend to be counter cyclical to bulk bag sales, helping to keep the operation running. In season view them as incremental additional sales     

6 minutes ago, arboriculturist said:

Is it actually worth retailing nets given bag cost, the amount of labour, packing ,handling transport costs and delivery, where in a single bulk delivery you can sell say £ 240? Thanks.

For me it's a spring summer job building up stocks. It depends what you sell the nets for and the minimum qty. Camp sites, garages etc with a pallet load at a time can make decent money. This bit of kit has got the costs right down. Pack them 50 on a pallet and easy handling thereafter.

no Wales

well i paid £4k plus vat but would have happily paid more for the savings it's given me  

5 minutes ago, Paper Rustler said:

Great news we have established we can sell on a parts only warranty, this means you can now buy from a bargain £5800 + VAT.

For ways to buy and purchasing options Call Jez on 07971644810

 

copied directly from his website!!

1 minute ago, Paper Rustler said:

£5,800 plus vat

 

Huh ?

About £4K , so loads cheaper than the two other options out there and a hell of a lot less space. I've found a key part of the speed is having the logs presented to the operator. Pics attached

Got it up to 90 nets an hour working on 60L nets and 110 nets and hour on 40L nets today. I think this is probably the maximum output we will get by 5 x faster than doing it by hand with a tipping log tray and so much easier

16 minutes ago, Alycidon said:

Looks a simple bit of kit,  supplier details ?.

 

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It's a bit cleverer than it looks in that the chute opens to grab the net tight. Got it from a guy called John Payne. Very reasonable priced too 

Paynes Products - Farm Equipment Supplier

PAYNESPRODUCTS.COM

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Farm Equipment Supplier

I thought I'd share a quick video of a new bit of kit I've brought to speed up packing log nets. This thing has changed our lives for the better, bloody amazing. Packs 75-80 logs nets an hour over a full day. here the lads are packing jumbo 60L nets , it's quicker on the standard hardwood nets. The lads are still fresh at the end of the day and I recon the machine will have paid for itself in less than 2 months  

Urgently looking for hardwood log nets. Must weigh 12-15kg per net - 40 -50L nets. Max 27cm long.

I know the weight requirement makes no sense but I supply a poorly educated market of experts

Delivery to LD3 

Looking for 1,000 nets a week. Payment at point of  delivery.

Will happily provide references from other arbtalk members  about my volume and payment 

Please PM me with qty, spec and price

Has anyone managed to speak to anyone at Riko this year ? I've left numerous voice mail messages and sent several emails but no answer ? Their service is normally very good so not sure whats happened ????

I've just posted a log drying kiln for sale on Arbtrader for a friend . Well worth a look.....

kiln dried with holes in the bags

Hi,

Does anyone on here use poly bags for packing logs instead of nets. I'm looking for 40 and 60 litre bags. Any suggestions on where to source them and a bag sealer ?

Any help wou;d be much appreciated

Thanks

Duffryn

A mate has a Posch and recons its 50 bags an hour but that you really need second person to tie and stack to keep up with it. The exact length of wood seems critical for these otherwise jams will really slow you down.

Hi,

I'm looking for a load of  Apple / Cherry - Ideally 8ft lengths though will be flexible with Apple. Ideally located within 25 miles of LD3 0SU.

Also looking for crane bags of sawdust - oak, beech, alder, cherry, apple, maple. Dust must be pure to species, free from contamination and not cut by a chainsaw. 

Please PM with any availability / prices 

Many Thanks

Duffryn

Not passing judgment here, bagged 200 bags today as a test and thought f that for a game of soldiers. By the time you take depreciation / repairs on kit, extra time to move stuff around, break downs, jams hassle into account I couldn't see it was worth it. I calculated I was better off buying it in and spending my time maximising sales price and volume.

Just now, FJMatt said:

Ha I'm nearly 50

 Then you must be at best breaking even on this 

4 minutes ago, FJMatt said:

Cost of a tote bag and netting bags comes to exactly the same, as price is ex yard, no delivery 

As far as £10 hour dream on, under 18 £3.87 

 

Understood but this has to be marginal to say the least, especially when you turn 18.

5 minutes ago, FJMatt said:

You'll average about 27 nets from m2 tote 

so paying yourself say £10 an hour for extra wok and doing 25 nets and hour , minus cost of bags you are selling at around £65 a cube ? If you don't mind me askirng , what do you think it costs you to produce a cube of hardwood logs ( not bagged) ?

On 8/30/2017 at 19:11, FJMatt said:

45 x 60 kiln dried hardwood £3.00 wholesale 

 

Just out of interest what is the volume of one of these bags when filled ? 45 x 60 x?