BurnerLogs

IC Just PM'd you.

Is anyone close to Harrogate?, Had someone order a load today but its a bit far for me- 30 miles. Ive agreed a delivery price etc and will deliver it on Thursday morning unless someone more local wants it. Thanks Tim

Ive just PM'd you Chris Cheers Spud, Ill try and exhaust a few more avenues before I go chumping someone elses wood :-)

I had the same, I asked if he could deliver some of the distance so I could pick up and get back to Yorkshire in a day. His reply was that he wanted £3300 for it and eBay would be sending me an invoice in a few hours. I smell a rat with that one.

Hi James, Ill take a good look on there, thanks for that. Im really after any of the typical nice burning hardwoods mainly ash, beech, sycamore, apple, cherry etc.

As per the title, does anyone have hardwood cord for sale in Yorkshire. I can come view/ price up any Thursday or Friday and will arrange transport etc. Let me know if you do, cheers

Has anyone seen this one Japa 300 Firewood processor Oct 2008 | eBay Im always unsure when someone has 0 feedback

Amen Heres the convenience store market by number of stores. Independents and Symbols are your local family owned store. And the value. While the multiples (tesco etc) are the big players, they are outnumbered and outsold by the symbols and independents who own nearly 60% of the market. And this is the convenience grocery market, arguably the most competetive market in the country. I wouldn't be thinking of giving in just yet

My bet is that the vast majority of CW's sales will be unique customers buying a load in for their newly installed woodburner and more importantly have bought it and dont have a clue about which type of logs to burn, seasoning etc. They'll buy it after a quick google search and will have found a 'local boy' before their first load runs out. CW will ride the wave while logburner sales are what they are now and possibly will be the next few years. After that my bet is there will be a fair few massive kilns for sale on ebay.

Find out how much the haulage is to West Yorks and Ill take some ;-) For you though, if you can sell it through then it would make sense to grow a bit and take it steady. The landowners are like any supplier or wholesaler, they're always shortsighted and will see the big players as their next cash cow. Unfortunately for some of the ones who start sending everything they've got to the likes of CW their customer can end up folding and they'll be left with no sales, even if its in the short term while they find another buyer they will suffer. If you're worried about being too small or for like me in this business, just starting out, the only thing I've learned after having a few successful and a few complete failures is to get you're head down and focus on your own strengths while keeping an unsentimental eye on what's happening in the rest of industry/ market. I know I'm new to the game and to be honest this is a sideline for me so not the best person to offer anyone advise by a long mile, but its a growing market and that will attract investment. Its the same in every area I've been involved in. My main competitors in my last UK business were Palmer and Harvey and 3663. I outsold them in the North of England with a specific product simply because I was small enough to provide the same product with a more personal and tailored service, and I was more expensive.

I am new to the forum and new to selling firewood. While I am by no means an expert in firewood (or will ever claim to be) I liken the situation with companies like CW to what Ive experienced in the past in other areas. They and other big estates, farms etc that are getting grants and seemingly ploughing money into their operations need not be feared. Especially in something as niche as firewood. Ive seen it partucularly with Ice cream and dairy products and have seen it in other markets and industries, people step up and try and have a stab at being the big dog. A small percentage will succeed and develop a brand and will move to the upper echelons of the market. They then become less interested in world domination and more interested in market share. The rest will fail miserably and disappear. There's not a lot of room at the top in any market. The 'big dogs' will not try or ever be able to crush the area of the market shared by small to medium producers. As soon as they get so big they are more interested in not being replaced by another large producer. In fact if anything companies like this, at least for a short time, will raise awareness of the fact that you can use wood to heat your home and more woodburners etc will be installed. Your small advert and word of mouth will bring you even more business as result of the new trend. The one thing you can fear is (or become a part of) is cooperatives in your area. That is groups of small producers teaming together and if nothing else wrapping the local market up for their 'clique'. If your in your fine, if your not you could get screwed. On the whole though I think if your wood is good, your prices are okay and your service is reliable and consistent you will never lose in the long run.

Hi Im new to the forum and new to selling logs, Ive enjoyed reading the posts on here and have got loads of advice so thanks to the regular posters for your pearls of wisdom (got square eyes now though!) I've got a small supply from my own stocks that have built up over the last few years and have about 50t available of seasoned hardwood through a friend of a friend who's a tree surgeon. He's getting on a bit and just sells a few loads here and there to his also ageing customers from the years gone by. I know Im late in the game for this year but if anyone has any surplus in the West Yorkshire area or that can be delivered to there, I'd be grateful to here from you. I've just got back from working away in Afghanistan for the last 2 years and am really planning now to build up for next year but thought I might as well have a little stab at this year as I'm only intending it to be a sideline. I've got a couple of loads to deliver this week, again these are to friends of friends and have got an order for a couple of pubs which Ill be delivering next week so fingers crossed I could get a few regular customers quite quickly and take it from there. Cheers