Fenland

I have a set made by an old firm in West Yorkshire. Can't think of the name.

Probably these guys..The Original Hand Tool Manufacturer - Carters

Other recommendation would be Fencing Tools, Drivall Electric Fencing Tools

Based on your description it would have to be around £6 to £6.5/m for me with £0.5/m for taking old one down (no disposal costs though).

Assuming you run a post knocker and something to rip out old fence.

All plus vat

Ouch in more ways than one.

If they are a genuine employee and "qualify" then its statutory sick pay (SSP) at £88.45/week (this is the minimum) for up to 28 weeks.

You can pay them more if you wish

Its a bit of scheme is the CIS...Assuming the work you describe falls under the CIS banner (I'll leave others to decide) then two points:

1) The main contractor will deduct a percentage form the amount you receive (usually 20%) which you can subsequently reclaim or offset at year end. The main contractor will need to verify your CIS status if not already done so.

2) Any subbies working for you on CIS sites will also need to be CIS registered and you will need to be registered as a main contractor. You will then be responsible for verifying them as bona fida, stopping the appropriate amount from them and paying it over to HMRC. You will need to provide them with a CIS payment certificate for their records.

CIS deductions can only me made from labour elements of an invoice i.e. not materials, plant hire, skips etc etc.

Hope that helps, feel free to PM me

Yes, simple answer, DON'T

Can you expand on that? Always interested in reviews.

Did you buy this direct from post puller uk?

I looked but thought they were big money??

To just install post and rail looking at £4.5m inc nails.

Would agree with that, if I can get to around £5/m for the labour aspect then you can generally earn a decent days pay with the post knocker. Assuming 5x3 posts and 3 rails.

We run a Boxer with various augers and lovely bits of kit.

Services hhmmmmmm "supposed to be" is about the correct phrase

Here's a handy little gas pipe we hit at about 150mm.

Are you contracting in to Local Authority/Council?

Will be very surprised if you dont have to put in a schedule of rates (i.e. price per metre).

It will be price sensitive....

The last time i took on a little fencing post job that called for the fence post and concrete to be removed,the original contractor had poured what looked like the same amount of concrete as would be specified into making a large german underground bunker.

After that episode i now subcontract all fencing jobs out.

Love it.

Never tried a post puller/farm jack but often wondered about them.

For us, if the post base has to come out, we dig down one side of old concrete to give it a space to crack. Then its concrete breaker out and split the lump out. If the old mix is good then normally out in two or three lumps. Most of the time its a case of staggering the new to span the old.

Just go skins and crack on..

Big shortage here.

Closeboard panels not a problem, 6x6 laps....

Just out of interest, what rails and rail spacings have you used?

Have a look at the Transit range, some of the T350's will tow 3500kg legally and some of the mwb will do 2700kg I think.

Two normals for us:

2.4m bays, 3 cant rails etc or

3m bays, as above except with centre stump

Probably a silly question being a p10!! I were thinking about getting one for my kubota U10. Ive got a borer for it but didnt know if it would struggle!!

Not that stupid actually as there is an 150kg option for these I believe (or there was when we got ours!)

If you want to see one drop us a line as we are not that far apart.

I assume they have also verified you with HMRC i.e. you have provided National Insurance number etc?

I assume you have also registered as a CIS subcontractor with HMRC

Just trying to see if they are trying it on..

What and where was the work...I am lead to believe that some tree work doesnt even fall under the CIS scheme

Yep its about this time of the year we start to get peeved off with the Paslodes as the gas doesnt like the cold weather.

1 gas in the gun and 1 in your pocket soon gets boring...

I always start looking at compressor/framing gun combo's during the winter months:biggrin:

Well gone and done it now bought another disco van. Our d2 has been brilliant the new one is more space ship than work truck. Will see how it goes basically a Range Rover sport with bigger boot. 255 hp is nice towing 3500kg

Thats a cracker......to good for work:001_smile:

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I never find an extra person particularly helpful, or at least not as much as their wages may dictate!

I get into a "zone" when I'm working alone and as long as I have decent machinery there isn't much I need another person for. Apart from driving a tractor and stapling that is, if I encounter difficulties ie ground conditions I'm not paying some one else to stand around humming and arring.

I think it depends what type of work your doing; stock fencing one man job not too much hassle. Post and rail or horse netting with top rail then, for me, and extra pair of hands is essential.

I think rocking will be an issue with tracks, although I expect it would be slightly less of a problem with bigger machines?

Our boxer (small but tracked) suffers with the wobbles if the ground is undulating. Slopes etc not to much of a problem but it doesn't like sharp angles.

With regards to the spike- we had them on our Protech and ground them off- on post and rail people weren't liking the 3-prong holes in the top of the post. Also if you did have to lift off and re-address the post you ended up with 6 holes or worst still the top of the post splitting out.

I keep hankering after a dedicated tracked conversion as I keep convincing myself I can cut down from a two-man job to a one man.....but will it?

I am currently pondering the exact same query.

We run a Boxer with Protech P10 and compact tractor with 150kg hammer.

Ideally I would like a 250kg hammer for strainers, but we also do a lot of post and rail with both 5x3 and 6x3. For these the faces have to be spot on and I have seen a hydrualic twister .

The Protech machine looks great but at 2.7-2.9 ton I believe it leaves you sweating on the 3.5t towing limit. When I had a look we would have had to have changed to lighter trailer.

I have found that Vector PowerDrive also do a tracked machine- a 2.5t "light" weight tracked machine.nThis machine has the hydraulic post twister. Only problem is that I cant get a price out of them..

Then the other side of me says get a bigger compact tractor and Protech P30 contractor.....Tractor can then have pallet forks fitted, tow trailer etc etc..

Still 171 did me for several years till some scroat nicked it out the back of me disco while I was down the line stapling up! Small, very light, super accurate with the 1.1 pico chain and cheap as chips. Have heard of others having oiler problems but always found it super reliable.

Looks ideal, the fact that it lasted for a good few years is always a bonus as well.

It certainly wont be getting daily use, more like weekly so for the money that looks like a good buy.

Need some advice from my more learned forum users.

Our old chainsaw has given up the ghost, but has done us well. So I need a new chainsaw for fencing work only, so small, light weight and reliable are the key criteria. Doesn't need to be able to run huge bars, log away all day etc..

Will be used for cutting and notching strainers and struts.

So any recommendations for saws?

[Not bothered whether is Husky or Stihl before we go down that route!]

£200 for labour plus materials on top?

I had a quick tally up on Jacksons fencing and I could all materials and fixings/cement etc delivered for just ovef £300.

This guys original price was nearly £900. I don't know how much he has dropped it by now. Very suspect to me...

No, £200 all inclusive of labour and materials.

For 3ft high I would expect material costs to be down to about £10/m (wooden posts and gravel boards, 2 rails and feather edge) so £90 which leaves £110 for an easy days work for one man.

Might have been a bit stingy on the labour, but £230 would easily cover the whole job.