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Posts posted by Splitter
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The builders bags i use are 800mm square as well, so it falls short of a m3, but the ones in the video don't look any bigger.
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They need our Vented Log bags to dry the wood.
Can you tell me the price per 250 of your vented bags delivered to NI, i can't find a supplier over here.
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[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B2XhcyvGwQ8&feature=player_embedded]YouTube - CertainlyWood.co.uk -04[/ame]
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Thats the 16ton one, the 4 way knife came with it.
I found the cross head on my thor splitter pretty useless on anything wider than 8 inch dia. The knife blades were not long enough to split right out to the edge of the timber, meaning you had to cut twice.
Most models that push the wood through the knife don't seem to have this problem.
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Most of the wood i cut is 'off farm' condition so to speak, and i found it hard getting a splitter to suit. The wood varies from 4 to 20 inch dia, and it can be rough enough, so i made one to run off my mini digger.
It pushes out over 17ton with a fixed cross head on it. It's nowhere near as fast as a processor, but i can fill and stack 2 builders bag an hour with it.
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Does a wedge and anvil machine produce a neater split than the cone type?
I would guess so.
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If you watch some of the videos on utube of the hi-crack splitters, they look slow.
I just sold a thor sptter with a 2 speed hyd ram that worked real quick.
This splitter looks like a cracker.
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rSCBPj3jTMA]YouTube - Posch SplitMaster 9t Holzspalter log splitter[/ame]
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How does the likes of a Hakki Pilke oh60 cope with knotty wood. I noticed most of the smaller machines have low splitting forces of around 5 to 8 ton, so do they jam often if your not feeding them straight wood?
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I used to do a lot of air rifle shooting before the kids came along, my favourite was a daystate huntsman FAC 50ftlb
It shot .22 bullet heads, done my job. I had a smaller BSA .177 i think it was called a lightening or something similar, it was a FAC also and was awesome for bunnies, it had a real straight trajectory.
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I have a small holding (30 acres) so i don't really have a garden as such, more of a farm yard and outhouses.
But i do have a nice tree at the front of the house !
This would be the back of the house where wifey keeps her hobby.
I built these pens to keep my greyhounds in. There's a lot of old trees at the bottom of the field that could do with being cut back..someday..
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northern ireland mate.
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Sorry, buying at roadside, it's beech and oak the seller thinks there's around 70 to 100ton
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What would be the average price payed per ton for hardwood thinings 4 to 12 inch thick, roadside?
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so it looks to be more profitable to sell by the net compared to the 1ton bags.
On ebay there selling 1ton bags of hardwood for £30 and under which is 20-25 nets, which as nets would sell for £60 - £75
I suspose the only saving you have is the time spent bagging them?
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greyhounds is my vice, i have cut down lately though, i only have 11 at the moment, i think? maybe i should go count them!!
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i was also looking 1 to load a tipper with.
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I found this while browsing.
Firewood logs
As can be seen from the Bolton example firewood may be a good potential market.
Firewood, like most low value wood products, has fairly low profit margins and to make a
viable business case relatively large quantities need to be produced efficiently.
Typical firewood production is based on forestry cord wood typically two metre poles
from 3” to 15” diameter depending on the firewood processor used. Picture 10, below,
shows a typical firewood processor with nearby feedstock run by contractors at
Croydon’s tree station. It shows a self powered Pallax firewood processor which can be
towed. Seasoned wood (one year old) is processed into the back of a trailer and
delivered directly to customers. One man with a good quality supply of timber (straight,clean and of the right diameter) can produce and deliver about six loads a day (each
load about half a tonne) with each load selling for £55. This gives a gross income of
£330 less timber costs of £84 (£28 a tonne delivered) and fuel costs/depreciation (£30)
leaving £216.
Using Tree Care’s price of £80 per transit load of seasoned logs and assuming about
2m3 of timber this would equate to £40 in Bolton per Croydon equivalent load giving a
net profit of £126 if forestry timber was used.
The other firewood market accessed from the Croydon timber station is firewood nets
with 10kg nets selling at £1.74 to B&Q and a similar price to other customers such as
nurseries. One man can cut and bag 150 10kg nets per day which equals £261 less
expenses of £42 for wood plus £20 for fuel/depreciation leaving £199. The B&Q price is
fixed nationally but requires delivery. All the above prices are for seasoned hardwood
excluding willow and poplar and in the case of B&Q the wood needs to be FSC certified.
In the south east firewood is a fast growing market with cord wood prices rising year on
year. The recent collapse of St Regis, a paper mill, at Sudbrook on the Welsh border
may change this situation with the potential for over supply of hardwood timber.
Other larger suppliers such as CPL also buy nets and they tend to pay less, typically
around £1.00 per bag collected but also accept unseasoned wood of any description.
The production levels above are based on the use of forestry cordwood which can go
straight through a firewood processor. However, arboricultural arisings are not so easy
to process, they often have rot or other defects, they arrive in various shapes and sizes
which make it harder to process uniformly and much of the material will not go through a
processor due to being too large. This makes the splitter and chainsaw used by Tree
Care the best solution for processing but this is a slower method of production.
However, the arisings cost nothing and if a gate fee is charged can bring in money,
which makes firewood an attractive proposition.
This situation would be improved by cutting material to pulp lengths where viable and not
putting smaller diameter material (3” plus) through the chipper. This would give more
material for a firewood processor or direct firewood sale (firewood is currently from £-£20
a tonne at roadside depending on quality).
E&S Fuels, a bulk firewood/fuel supplier, were contacted and were interested in new
sources of firewood as supply can be problem for them. Their specification includes
softwoods and they are currently importing bagged firewood from Northern Ireland to
supplement supply. They buy bagged 10kg logs at around £0.90p per bag for an
articulated lorry load.
Like chip a quality product will require some investment. A self powered Pallax firewood
processor will be around £5500 and machines which take a wider diameter log cost up
to £30,000. Splitters are cheaper and tractor mounted units can be bought for £1200.
Smaller cheaper chippers such as the Wessex self powered unit are often not up to the
job especially with knotty trees. An ideal set up has a machine processing logs into one
side of an open barn and being loaded on the other side via conveyor or front loader.
This provides a bank of material which is also drying out prior to delivery but presents
other cost items.
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you can pick up a decent 3 ton digger for 5-6 grand. I made the grab myself as i served my time as a welder, but you can buy them ready made to suit, and all you have to do is have someone spend an hour welding it to the digger.
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You could use a mini digger with a thumb attached. You can buy them for easy money at the moment cos the building trade is on it's arse.
I find mine invaluable, it can pull small trees and conifers by the root, it's a saw horse, stacks the lorry, cleans up the brush and stacks the branches etc.
I even use it to power my logsplitter lol, i like to get my moneys worth !!
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I have a logsplitter in the ads for sale, but i am in need of a circular bench saw like the Arbor Eater - TT600 Saw Bench Elecric
Has anyone similar they want to trade?
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I bought this saw form a guy i know at the pub, he was retiring from his landscaping business and was looking rid of it.
Anyways after several more pints i bought it for £120 without seeing it, and to my surprise when he brought it round a few days later it was practically new!
After giving it 18 months of abuse it still doesn't look to shabby, but i was looking to get a 20 inch bar for it as i use it mostly for ringing up buts and i am fed up having to cut twice.
Can i get a 20 inch bar for it, and will it be able to run it?
£90 cubic mtr
in Firewood forum
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.512 is 20% less than a m3, but you got to take into consideration that you overfill the bags and the side bulge, and it's heaped over the top, so the customer ends up with near m3, least thats what i will be telling them..lol