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Aye, that is my take on it....E & F represent the same thing (arrived at mathematically by the same formula) but essentially aim to weed out confusion by depicting both scenarios...Fair enough ! For some reason, I rather had a notion that the stem diameters for the various limbs measured under the convention set in F were simply added together, thus arriving at a stem diameter.... Just chick'n....! cheers

Hey people... I have a question about the new BS...! I dont mean to labour the point but I suspect I have the stem definitions a little confused...! Whats the accepted take of measurement (F) It reads like a multi-stemmed tree (..of tree with more than 1 stem @ 1,5m...etc ) which makes it the same measurement convention as (E). Is this the accepted interpretation can anyone tell me ? ( Annex C appears in "normative ref" in the document...! ) cheers

A little unclear.... You mean, it fails entirely to qualify the equation with any meaningful explanation...! You are quite right. If it is something you had wondered about for yourself, you should take it as read that it means, the radius of the PrZ is (=) 4 times the circumference of the tree. Apparently, they used to state that drip line was enough when they realised that fastigiate trees simply didnt fall into this neat categorisation - hence the change ! It is rather the obvious conclusion but I dont like taking things for granted....stupifyingly, I wondered if they meant 4xcir of tree = circum of PrZ Anyway, that sorts that one out...Nice one !

The govt has sen fit to relax planning application legislation in an attempt to boost the economy. I wonder what implications have been overlooked in these proposals....( TPO's for example, Conservation areas and more...! ) Interesting times....! Planning Portal - Superfast broadband planning regime changes proposed

I think you have it Rob...! edit ( these iPhone cameras are very good are they not !!? )

BS5837 4.2.4 c)

All good... I have not been so easily persuaded by this one however... My photos are not showing a very stout, and rounded abdomen on the example I photographed. What do you think ? Epistrophe grossulariae

Couple points...measurements are specified @ 1.5m in the British Standard... I agree that neighbouring trees of significance ( likely to present a constraint ? ) should be included in some way. The above suggestions make good sense. The answer is in the British Standard ( all but saying so) as it describes how to categorize (Table 1 ) and elsewhere within the text. ( it tends to repeat itself a bit Ive noticed !!) Not saying there's no need to ask - discussion is healthy Im sure. To some extent, I think you could take a position in line with BS5837 as it states, even end use of neighbouring land must be considered...! Nice idea but in reality, quite likely a simple impracticality !

This may seem a rather stupid question, and in many ways it is Im afraid ! Could someone please confirm for me a detail regarding the precautionary zone, described as 4 x tree circumf... This must surely indicate that the radius of said PZ = 4 x tree circumf...? cheers Tim

BTW...I keep the only house amongst my neighbours on this 'ere estate that isnt paved to the hilt....! I keep the grass long and the hedges unkempt, never cutting what flower there is until after . There are pockets of this Fine City (Norwich) that has no sparrows at all ! I cant get rid the blighters...they raise 2 broods I reckon, getting fat on the proceeds of my beekeeping...! It was funny to watch them learning to take the bees without getting stung. And watching them in turn get picked off by sparrow hawks ! Im not mr tidy house wash me car Im afraid !!

Fair enough. I just figured that without a visual I was going to struggle ! I mean, a hover fly, fine but I didnt know that much for sure ! And so it was that I asked, confident that it would be recognised by an arb perhaps, as I know some are interested in aspects that relate to our work , extra curricula if you will !! By terminalogy, I trust you dont mean the specific entomological definition huh !!

Yeah...looks right to me. Nice one ! I am amused by wikipedia's comment about bee mimicry being a deterrent agianst birds eating them....the birds here love eating my bees. They are constantly flitting down & picking them off ! cheers.....

I have seen this fly in the past month(s) One I found expired in the bottom of a beehive. It had been dispatched by bees I suspect ! I have found it interested apparently in the hives but no means solely attracted by the beehives - does anyone know what it is please?

This is interesting ,even it is only vaguely related to our world of trees ! Nature - Tardigrades: Water bears in space

Oh dear...I cant even find a copy of the draft document on tinternet ! Looks like I"ll have to buy a copy unless someone can help me out !!