Looking for a sawmill log carriage

[Sion]

I'm hoping to find a 3 or 4 knee log carriage from some old sawmill, its for a project so something that needs work would be ideal, parts missing/broken or just the very bare bones of one would all be helpful right now. I'm in the west of wales but happy to travel anywhere in the uk for the right thing.

[Graham w]

your going to build a lumberpro!

Stock List | H. Armstrong Limited - Sawmill Machinery Engineers Solutions Seach

 

from what i can see carriages are difficult to find in reasonable condition, this is by far the cheapest i can find online, there is a working 54 with a 3 knee carriage but its 25k and incomplete and then you are into bigger stuff like vq137 and vq150's

 

could you give a hint as to what you are building?

[Sion]

your going to build a lumberpro!

Stock List | H. Armstrong Limited - Sawmill Machinery Engineers Solutions Seach

 

from what i can see carriages are difficult to find in reasonable condition, this is by far the cheapest i can find online, there is a working 54 with a 3 knee carriage but its 25k and incomplete and then you are into bigger stuff like vq137 and vq150's

 

could you give a hint as to what you are building?

 

A LumberPro?! Ah, yes well sort of..

 

Thankyou, that link is awesome, exactly the sort of thing im hoping to find, and the rest of the mill thrown in too, even better! Ill be giving them a call. Ive been planning to build a slant head setup. i've got a couple of options for the headrig, a spare stenner vb42 from a bandrack or I have a unknown make (wilcox?) 48" double slabber with 7" face wheels, ive been wondering about a home brew double cut, would be good fun - like this Salem:

 

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I bought the double slabber locally many years ago, part of an 8 head setup that had been gas axed out and I got just the 2 heads and nothing else. A double slabber would be excellent but not entirely appropriate for my needs, something that can see more of the process through on the one machine would be better, hence the want for a bandmill, i just thought the slant setup looked more interesting, and i'm sure even if one was available in the uk it would be well outside my spending limits, so self build is the only way to go.

 

About 10 years ago I made a trip to almost Aberdeen to view a 48" Stenner with i think a 4 knee carriage, electric set works and it had been made slightly portable by being fixed to 2 massive box sections. I'd be quite interested in that now if I had any idea where it was or could find the guys number, unfortunately theres little chance of that now.

 

Great to have an option already, I hope more stuff surfaces too before I push the button too hastily.

 

Thanks!

[wills-mill]

Sion, is that Mr D the Sagar specialist? It's Will here from the Canadian forum...

 

I've seen a 48in Stenner carriage mill that sounds like the one you mentioned (and it came down from the Scottish East Coast) it had originally been set up in Dover and then headed north. There was a plywood shed with all the controls in it, the whole thing had loads of pneumatics, hydraulics and electrics. It's probably still sat in bits in the Sussex brambles. I can find out if it's still there if you're keen.

[Sion]

Hi Will, yes that is me! Now the mill is in demand and all the Sagar stuff is pushed into a corner... That stenner 48 machine sounds amazingly similar, I don't quite recall the plywood shed bit, but it may have been, I only really looked at the carriage and set works (probably 10 or more years ago now), it all seemed like a jump too far back then, and probably would have been. Now its definitely not and I would be very keen to hear more if its not out of your way.

I especially like machines that are residing in brambles. Brambles are good.

 

Have you found yourself a comb jointer yet?

[wills-mill]

Hi Will, yes that is me! Now the mill is in demand and all the Sagar stuff is pushed into a corner... That stenner 48 machine sounds amazingly similar, I don't quite recall the plywood shed bit, but it may have been, I only really looked at the carriage and set works (probably 10 or more years ago now), it all seemed like a jump too far back then, and probably would have been. Now its definitely not and I would be very keen to hear more if its not out of your way.

I especially like machines that are residing in brambles. Brambles are good.

 

Have you found yourself a comb jointer yet?

 

I'll give them a ring about the carriage and rails. They are keen to reuse some of the log deck and conveyors that were with this saw, but I don't think they are ever looking to refurb the carriage.

 

I've not found a comb jointer or similar yet. Still looking half heartedly for a single pin or a big Brookman.

 

Hop your big move is starting to settle down. W

[Rik Blaauw]

Came across this Auction.

Starting price 900,- for a complete sawmill.

https://m.bva-auctions.com/auction/lot/23704/8101662

 

It's located in the Netherlands, but might be worth the haul if the auction ends somewhere under 10000,-

Good luck

[Graham w]

Came across this Auction.

Starting price 900,- for a complete sawmill.

https://m.bva-auctions.com/auction/lot/23704/8101662

 

It's located in the Netherlands, but might be worth the haul if the auction ends somewhere under 10000,-

Good luck

 

great find! that mill looks really good fun, have not seen a mill with 55 inch pulleys but only takes a 5 inch saw normally its 7 inch unless its just running with smaller saws.

 

i priced a gillet carriage/stenner 54 back in july. i think its located in Belgium and i was tempted by the price but it was not the ideal mill for me so considering the installation cost we decided to give her a miss.

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[Sion]

Came across this Auction.

Starting price 900,- for a complete sawmill.

https://m.bva-auctions.com/auction/lot/23704/8101662

 

It's located in the Netherlands, but might be worth the haul if the auction ends somewhere under 10000,-

Good luck

 

I really like that, and a hell of a carriage with 6 knees. The end ones look to be manual, so quite an oldie? I suspect it wont make a great amount, they're quite strict on the removal terms, probably not for me unfortunately, it is a lovely machine though. Thanks.

[Sion]

great find! that mill looks really good fun, have not seen a mill with 55 inch pulleys but only takes a 5 inch saw normally its 7 inch unless its just running with smaller saws.

 

i priced a gillet carriage/stenner 54 back in july. i think its located in Belgium and i was tempted by the price but it was not the ideal mill for me so considering the installation cost we decided to give her a miss.

 

I thought those wheels were unusual too, I would really like the length of that carriage, Ultimately somehow I need to cut at least 26' and small sizes too so the 6 dogs would hold it well. I've been pricing double cut blades, their quite expensive as you might expect. I thought it would be fun to convert the stenner 42 head I have to a slanted double cut with a longish carriage for small diameter stuff, handling speed is important to me as the small finished sizes include 2 1/2" x 1 1/2" and 7x1, 8x1 and 4x1 1/2", also alot of 5/8" weather board. Quite a bit of that I would like to saw to completion on the bandmill, I know that is not quite the orthodox method but I have some particular reasons to want to do that, at least for a time anyway. Ive been thinking about the combination of the slant double cut with a small circular edger to do alot of the resawing in the one pass, basically trying to maximize a single operator.

I'll probably continue to saw the longer lengths on a stenner bandrack.