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Posts posted by Bsco85
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A good constructive thread, lots of valid points being made.
I thought something stood out from your initial topic post. That being climbed is the trees not rope. The tree being different every time, in every situation, leads it to be unquantifiable in the same way rope access and IRATA rope work can say how strong X and Y is. Therefore the training and experience of the climber is the biggest controlling factor in risk assessment, the tree can’t be relied on to be like the one before or after. The the climber and his experience trumps structural study on the supporting structure, the tree that is.
I don’t think you can suggest a single anchor point is safer and shouldn’t try. Instead we should suggest a icop does tie us in with rope access, but should contain a caveat section that states the climber in tree work has the responsibility and capacity to use rope access/work position techniques as most appropriate.
blah, that was a mouthful! And not phrased in particularly well. But hope it is perhaps a better way for HSE to digest the unique factors that apply to Tree work.
also that the training and through years of experience, a climber is uniquely educated for making a call on the safest way to approach a problem.
ultimately the tree and situation, through the site specific risk assessment, is more important on a daily basis than the higher, generic industry guidance that towers above it.
and a quick note on basal anchors. They should, in my opinion, be used for initial access then top anchored as soon as possible. Taut, tensioned rope around falling objects isn’t a good idea or particularly ‘safe’.
A SRT access system, top tied, with a further DRT system, anchored separately above the SRT system as a working line. To me that is both a reasonable and safe professional way to work as a template. Unless the situation dictates otherwise. Oh, the SRT system detached while the working line is used.
but whole point of my speel is to highlight the situation dictates the appropriate climbing system. So I’m just saying I don’t like working off basal anchors!
hope this makes sense to some, especially those who matter reading this. Again a huge amount of great points written on here. I’ve, largely, enjoyed reading the responses.
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So that system looks okay, and also a bit nuts.
ive had a lot of discussion with other experienced climbers round me and it’s thrown up some thoughts....
mainly throwing up a SRT system to ascend. Having a further higher anchor with a DRT system to work off. Detached from the SRT line. That’s sensible, though not always practical.
there’s actually quite a lot of scope to try some new things too. Descend specific boot lace thin lines and descenders from the IRATA boys, could help tick boxes and may be fun to bomb out the tree with at break.
learn, try new things
the crux of it is, whatever any gov body states, is the situation day to day is individual. When ropes everywhere are going to be a Greater hazard than a aid, then you do what’s appropriate. And in a court of law, with a expert witness cross examining you, I’m sure it’ll be seen that you’ve done everything you reasonably can to work safely.
so don’t sweat it too much. There’s no icop, the trainers/assessors yet don’t know what to reasonable train. If your a good operator then you know what’s reasonable, right and safe.
make sure your Site Specific Risky has some extra boxes. Actually mabye start filling them out!
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Rock exotica akimbo
in SRT (Single Rope Technique)
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I’ve tried quite a few now, on and off ‘the list’
TE xstatic
cougar blue, non CE one (much better, different core)
cousin atrax
cousin the other 11mm kermantle one
TE Tachyon, quite worn
Petzl, the latest one
and it performs on them all, it’s been so wet and dirty since I got it that working in that has become the norm.
Cousin Atrax is my fav, bloody good rope that, cheap too. There’s less changing settings with the atrax than the rest.
Bit of a unicorn device, there are no unicorns! But yeah, climbed most other hardware. It’s good, really good. There is some little points for your bridge on DRT.
but yeah, can climb up on a single line and jump straight onto a double line, on a different rope, without fucking about.
thats my 50 pence worth anyway. Atrax v good