RichardDesmond

The 357 actually has very close to a new chain. Possibly could do with an accurate sharpening in a vice, but nothing really wrong with it otherwise...

Yes it's the cm model. Now up for sale, as I have no need of it. Interestingly the MS 362cm weighs 7.6kg with a 20 " bar, the 357xp weighs 7.9kg with a 15" bar. I reckon all that extra weight comes from the exhaust spud welded on...

Correction, the 357XP is pulling a 20" bar...

No new rings, the saw has been only lightly used by me, so didn't need a great deal done to it. Reckon Spud did that one with the lights off, for practice like...

Yes it's the cm model. Now up for sale, as I have no need of it. Interestingly the MS 362cm weighs 7.6kg with a 20 " bar, the 357xp weighs 7.9kg with a 15" bar. I reckon all that extra weight comes from the exhaust spud welded on...

339Xp, now running a 15" Microlite Pro Bar and 95vpx chain

That is 10" of green, Mountain Ash.

I have 2 362's one of which is spudded. Neither of them are as good as a ported 357. I'd like to see that 362 against a stock 560. A stock 560 was just a whisker slower than a ported560 on .325. My latest ported 357 is running 3/8 and is probably faster still..

I suspect my test is a little unfair. Both the MS 362 and the MS201t have brand new chain, the 2 Huskies have field sharpened chain AND they were both used on a small job before the test...

Well sharpened chain on the 357xp, might show a different story.

The other issue is that I am running out of log, so I can't bare down on it now...

Yeah, 30% is a lot, when it doesn't cost you any weight. Plus you get more grin, for the same sized saw

And the MS362 is running 3/8'ths chain. Going to run it through a couple of concrete blocks, then do the test again...

Some vids here for anyone who has nothing better to do:

339xp got rebuilt and MM

357xp got spanked.

339xp:

339xpMM:

357xp:

357xpPort:

MS362CM new Stock:

Thoughts?

Your file gauge should say 7/32 or 5/32 on it.

Can't remember off-hand. I know I have 4.8mm for the Huskys and now 5.2mm for the MS362, the Combi tool chainsaw head takes a smaller file. I might check.

Just checked. If any one finds faulty with these numbers, please let me know, as it is starting to get confusing... I did notice that last year I filed the chain on the Combi Tool with 3/16 by accident, before realising the file should be smaller:

4mm = 5/32 = Stihl Combi Tool

4.8mm = 3/16 = Husky 339xp + 357xp

5.2mm = 13/64 = Stihl MS 362

Hi Richard

 

Don't know if this has been covered but a new chain been thrown is not uncommon. Although pre stretched in reality a new chain will stretch further when ran first. Just be aware and tighten after a few min alls good.

 

As for a thrown chain not fitting that's normal the drive link would have hit your chain catcher. Just find the bugger and use the flat file to remover the burr and your good to go.

 

Cheers,

James.

Thanks James.

Must admit, I have never had this issue before, that said, there is a lot of chain on a 20" bar. I did look and file any burs off of the chain. Still wouldn't fit. Seems like the chain took a twist. Took it straight back, as I sure as **** wasn't planning to pay for a new chain on a brand new saw.

On another note had to buy a third file guage yesterday. As i have 0.25, 0.325 and now 0.375". A bit of a pain...

Yeah, just checked. 3/8'ths, 1.6mm. 72 link RS

Sorry. I was in today. We were going through the graduations in chain. I think it is 3/8'ths

No. The MS 362 came stock with .404 and 20 inch bar.

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Flat out or nothing . dont piss about with 3/4 throttle . Also learn to sharpen up properly . New chains dont cut as fast as half worn well sharpened chains

I do know how to sharpen a chain, by hand, with a file. Chain on my 339xp is sharp, but down to the nub.

From the Irish side of the pond, I can say that last year was generally considered a good year, work-wise. This year is considered to have had an even better start, despite 2 months of solid rain. That's the word from most of the Tradesmen and suppliers I have spoken to. I would say Spud, that if we are busy, then Spud, you will be too...

Hi Lads.

Following up on my questions from an upgrade from the 2 Husqvarna saws to 2 Stihls.

I did indeed end up with an MS 201tcm (14" bar) and an MS 362cm (20" bar).

My 2 Husqvarnas have gone over to Spud in the UK for a bit of TLC.

Having used the 201T for about 3 tanks of fuel, I can say that I really like it. I dismantled a 16" cherry with it last week, buried full bar length, 3/4 throttle, no problem...

The MS 362 sat on my bench for 10 days, shiny and new. Finally took it out in the garden to run it in, before I actually have need of it. 30 seconds in to cutting firewood on a sawhorse, it throws the new chain and slaps me in the unprotected leg. No injury, but I did pretty much soil myself.

Damaged chain, then wouldn't go back on the bar. Straight back to the dealer, in fairness he swapped a new chain on, without a word.

Back home, I cut a 10" log that I had video'd both the 339 and the 357 cutting. Have to say the 2 stihls out-cut the 2 Husqvarnas. That may be partly down to new chains and new engines.

Both the 339 xp and the 201T seem plasticky and prone to breaking, though the 339 has had a fair bit of use.

The MS362 pissed all over the 357xp. I'm hoping that when I get my 357xp back from Spud ported, that it will be at least similar to the stock MS362cm. I'm guessing that the MS 362 will really start to rip after 5-6 tanks of fuel, at which point I will be selling it

The dealer not notice these issues?

Surely he checked it & ran it before giving it to you

He ran the engine, didn't run all 4 attachments. There was nothing to cut and nowhere to cut it at the dealership...

On a side note, after endlessly watching tree felling, climbing and chainsaw videos over the last 2 weeks, whilst awaiting new gear and my gardening season, (I have CS30+31 Small Trees) I'm considering going back to my trainer to study either Fell & Process Trees over 380mm (5 days), or Basic Tree climbing and Aerial Rescue. Any thoughts?

Having spent 5 years learning to climb in my late 30' and early 40's, I love height and have surprisingly little fear, but plenty of respect. I'm 46 this year, but am still lean, fit and strong (so my missus says... ;-) ) I actually do climb fairly often when removing trees for customers, because there usually isn't enough room to fell, so I limb and top the trees and bring them down that way. Would love to learn a bit about rigging and proper techniques for harness use and top handles..

Kev Birchall is my instructor.

Thanks,

Nik

I think you only hear when people have a problem with a product, there's thousands out there that work fine. Thinking of buying one when the newer lighter version hits shelves

Problem is, there are enough complaints about the MS 362 to suggest that there are quality control issues.

I have a multitool from Stihl. The bar on one of the attachments arrived fixed in at the wrong angle. I noticed straight away, 2 screws later, I had it straightened up. Point is, I reckon they were supposed to be assembled in jigs. Assembler couldn't give a toss. 2 weeks later I noticed the chainsaw head wasn't cutting more than an inch of wood. Took it back dealer, he opened it up, clutch was assembled backwards....

Considering the premium paid for Stihl gear that is very poor...

Have a play with it first on a 20" and see if you still want to sell it

Joe. It's exceptionally rare that I cut wood that thick. Tree felling is part time, for customers of my gardening business. I bet it'll cut amazingly well. I've never even used a 70cc saw! The 357xp is actually the biggest saw I have used, once Spud has been at it, it'll be the most powerful saw I have used:001_cool: (Hope it doesn't seem disappointing after the MS441).

Really, no room and no use for a saw that big. I'll leave full-timers to enjoy that saw...

Thanks. Yeah. A bit shocked when I looked up the list price...

I saw a used one for sale in Wexford here in Ireland a few minutes ago. I think that guy was a little optimistic.

I think for a Pro, the fact that it isn't an Mtronic will probably appeal. Just waiting for the second half of payment to go through for these saws and the MS441 will be on this site for sale. I might cut a few logs first, whilst Spud ports my 357xp...

I appreciate that you guys have helped me avoid purchasing a lemon ;-)

Guys. I just got a bit of good news from my supplier. They agreed to allow me to 'upgrade' my order, replacing the MS362 c-m with an MS441 (non-Mtronic version), as they had one in stock. I'm getting it for the same price as the MS362 c-m.

I gather that this is a somewhat more reliable saw. I still won't be keeping it, as it is too big for my needs, but I'm sure it'll make someone happy as a 'New, slightly discounted' big saw...:happybanana: