knot rigger

this knot has been tickling something in the back of my mind... I've seen it before! It's the farmer's loop, ABOK # 1054. Great knot, less prone to jamming than the butterfly, which is already very jam proof. I like the "circus bowline" name, but i agree that it's not really a bowline knot. cheers

Sorry I misunderstood, here are some pics of shows I've rigged for: hope you like

eggrascal: In addition to the video in the original post? Is the video not clear? sure: most theatre rigging is borrowed from other fields, primarily and historically sailing rigging, but also sport climbing, rope's access, search and rescue, arborist etc... but there are a few things that I've never seen or heard of outside of theatre and circus rigging 1) the circus hitch, a knot tied in wire rope. check this link: http://tinyurl.com/ocaqayr 2) locking a block in fall with a "bite", which ashley called "slip tackle knot" (ABOK 219) very popular with circus folk, and largely unseen outside of the circus in my experience The Ashley Book of Knots - Clifford Warren Ashley - Google Books other, borrowed from other fields, knots that could be useful to arborists could be: pursell prussic munter hitch apline clutch or garda knot zeplin bend sorry there's no links, but i'm sure you can find them with google and, lastly, it's not a knot, but "span set" makes a fantastic ratchet strap that let's you click to release, breaking tension one click at a time, rather than all at once. SpanSet -ABS? cheers andy

Just to let you know where I'm coming from, I'm not an arborist, I'm an acrobatic rigger in las Vegas. I have a professional interest in knots, I work with them every day, as you do. On top of that, I admit it, I'm something of a knot nerd. I've posted this method of the butterfly a few different places, and so far, you fellas are the only ones who have seen it before. Arborists it the UK. If anyone can tell me more about how common this method is in youre community, I would appreciate it. If any can tell me where it originates, I would REALLY appreciate it. Adam, I love your story about impressing your dad with this method, I relate. I love collecting new and better ways of tying knots, and impressing others with them is certainly one very real motivation! Thanks for sharing, and letting me know that this method is know at least as far back as 98. Cheers Andy

Hi Adam Bourne I knew that I couldn't have invented such an elegant way of tying such a popular knot, it had to have been discovered before. I'm glad I posted here, and discovered you. Can you tell me anything more about this method of tying the butterfly? Did you "invent" it? Or learn it from someone else? Got a name for it? I have posted it now if a few different forums, arborist, rope access, sport climbing, etc. In the interest of perhaps popularizing such a useful method, but also to learn who may deserve credit for originating it. thanks andy

I may have discovered (invented?) a new way to tie an Alpine Butterfly. I feel it has some advantages over the traditional two methods: 1) speed 2) can easily be tied with lots of rope weight below you 3) easier to form large loops Has anyone seed this method before? Anyone have any critiques or other thoughts about this method? Any suggestions as to what to name this method (if it does prove to be original?) thanks andy